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Old 01-17-2005   #1
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is there an official time clock? has the venerable Vinny given his blessing?
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is there an official time clock? has the venerable Vinny given his blessing?
24 hours is how much time you have

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Wags let me know if you are interested in trading your #1 pick. Nevermind Wags, even if I traded all of my picks it wouldn't be worth your #1 pick.
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The draft is a slow-draft style and is the same as the others we have run in the past. As soon as the pick is made the next team is on the clock. Please try to be ready for your pick. If 24 hours pass then the next team is automatically on the clock. Your pick will be made for you if you miss your selection. We will only let one team pass you then the pick will be made for you and we move on.

Let's see how our first run pans out. Let the chips fall...where the chips fall.
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Uhhhh.......,has it been 24 hours yet? Or, are we not really going to start this thing yet? Hello? Chirp Chirp Chirp........
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We were hoping Wags came around today. If he doesn't show up by mid-day tomorrow his pick will be made and this thing will be pushed off and started without him.
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Please try to be ready for your pick. If 24 hours pass then the next team is automatically on the clock. Your pick will be made for you if you miss your selection.
Sorry about not being ready for the pick. Hope you guys didn't wait too long. I was moving all of last week and had a few things come up.
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Sorry about not being ready for the pick. Hope you guys didn't wait too long. I was moving all of last week and had a few things come up.
Don't worry about it, I should of given you a warning that we were starting soon...
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ledzeppelin269 I will trade you the Redskins #9 pick=1350 for NO #16 & #41=1490 or any one else that is interested, I am looking to move down and pick up an extra pick.
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I will trade but I am last pick so I don't think my picks would be worth your pick.
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very unfortunate wags could'nt get out of bed, make the big dance or turn the big trade (closet Viking fan). gwallaia on the other hand is very shrewd & probably this very moment contemplating his next move, I know he loves defense so he may be e-mailing GM's about trading down so he could aquire the top DE prospect (not going to spoil that for you) but if no one plays he may just have to take a RB

gotta give mad props to the fins for having excellent depth @ QB (Feeley, Fiedler & Smith) sounds like attorney firm

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If anyone wants to jump up to #5, act quickly...Trades are in the works...

Have a package ready and send me a PM...

The #5 pick must go...

ACT NOW!!!!
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How are those trades coming D-Rek? People lining up to snag the #5 spot?
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Wow this mock is not very good so far...Top 5 picks look good then it spirals downhill... Lol...

1. wags 49ers Aaron Rogers, QB, Cal This is obvious definately the correct pick.

2.gwallaia Dolphins Alex Smith, QB, Utah This definately could happen, but most would think it will be a running back here. Good Pick

3.DC_ROCK Browns - Derrick Johnson, LB, Texas Good pick

4.Grid Bears Mike Williams, WR, USC Good Pick

5.D-ReK Buccaneers Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn Would be a good pick, would he be picked ahead of benson and cadillac who are higher on pretty much everyones board?

6.ArlingtonTexan Titans Alex Barron, OT, FSU I dont know about this pick, the titans have more pressing needs I thought...

7.ColdSteelBlue Raiders - Thomas Davis, S, Georgia I dont know where this pick comes from, because the raiders need all kinds of help on offense. No QB, no WR's, and no RB's. At this point in the draft you would assume you would go with one of the franchise type backs out there, and with benson lasting this long, it should have been an easy pick.

8.fresno8 Packers (from Cardinals) Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami I like this move up by the packers, but the cardinals still need some key players on defense and offense, and in such a weak draft, I would think a pickup of antrel rolle or maybe a runningback would prevent the cardinals from trading this pick. Hell Benson and Cadillac are still available
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Hell Benson and Cadillac are still available
That is going to happen. Teams dont like taking RBs in the top 10 because they play the most greuling position on the field and longevity is always a question. Look at recent drafts. McGahee, with two torn ligaments in his knee, was the back taken in the 03 draft around 20 and Steven Jackson (who may be just as good as the RBs coming out this year) was the first back taken last year in the mid-20s...
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That is going to happen. Teams dont like taking RBs in the top 10 ...
I don't totally agree that teams won't draft RBs with the early picks. It is true that a RB wasn't taken at the top of the last 3 drafts, but prior to that RBs were usually taken in the early picks. The following are backs taken before our pick (13th) the last few years prior to 2002.

Year . .Pk . . . . . . Player . . . . . . . . . . Team

2001 . . 5 . . . . LaDainian Tomlinson . . . Chargers
2000 . . 5 . . . . Jamaal Lewis . . . . . . . . Ravens
2000 . . 7 . . . . Thomas Jones . . . . . . . Cardinals
2000. . 11 . . . . Ron Dayne . . . . . . . . . Giants
1999 . . 4. . . . . Edgerrin James . . . . . . Colts
1999 . . 5. . . . . Ricky Williams . . . . . . . Saints
1998 . . 5. . . . . Curtis Enis . . . . . . . . . Bears
1998 . . 9. . . . . Fred Taylor . . . . . . . . .Jaguars
1997. . 12 . . . . Warrick Dunn . . . . . . . .Buccaneers
1996 . . 6. . . . . Lawrence Phillips . . . . . Rams
1996 . . 8. . . . . Tim Biakabutuka. . . . . . Carolina
1995 . . 1. . . . . Ki-Jana Carter . . . . . . . Bengals
1994 . . 2. . . . . Marshall Faulk . . . . . . . Colts
1993 . . 3. . . . . Garrison Hearst . . . . . . Cardinals
1993. . 10 . . . . Jerome Bettis . . . . . . . .Rams

I agree that 3 is a lot to absorb. Some teams don't need RBs, in the same way we won't draft a QB with the 13th pick. I just think it's a little early to say. We have a long way to go between now and draft day. All 3 (Benson, Brown, Williams) may have good workouts and depending on where traded RBs go (Henry), all 3 could easily go earlier than Jackson last year, etc.

In terms of longevity, the general manager and coach won't have much longevity if they don't get their programs going and a franchise RB can be a quick fix.
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check this out from Great Blue North-

Five-pack of teams looking at Bills' RB Henry... Buffalo RB Travis Henry, whom the Bills gave permission to seek a trade for himself, says that five teams have expressed an interest in acquiring his services. Henry, who became expendable in Buffalo when Willis McGahee emerged as star #1 back this season, in fact, identified Tampa Bay as one team interested in his services. Other teams believed to have some interest in Henry are Arizona, Miami, Carolina and Oakland. Henry, though, isn't the only veteran RB on the market. Earlier this week, for example, Denver also gave RB Reuben Droughns permission to seek a trade for himself, while its widely expected that Minnesota could also try and shop RB Michael Bennett; then there's Jets' RB Lamont Jordan who will almost assuredly be an unrestricted free agent later this winter. And the fact that so many quality veteran RBs are, or could be available, this off-season, will also have a major bearing on how team's approach the position at this year's draft.
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actually.. talk out of NY is that LaMont Jordan is willing to stay a jet if he gets starter pay. He knows that Martin will be retiring soon and he is gonna be the man at RB after that.
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I don't totally agree that teams won't draft RBs with the early picks. It is true that a RB wasn't taken at the top of the last 3 drafts, but prior to that RBs were usually taken in the early picks. The following are backs taken before our pick (13th) the last few years prior to 2002.

Year . .Pk . . . . . . Player . . . . . . . . . . Team

2001 . . 5 . . . . LaDainian Tomlinson . . . Chargers
2000 . . 5 . . . . Jamaal Lewis . . . . . . . . Ravens
2000 . . 7 . . . . Thomas Jones . . . . . . . Cardinals
2000. . 11 . . . . Ron Dayne . . . . . . . . . Giants
1999 . . 4. . . . . Edgerrin James . . . . . . Colts
1999 . . 5. . . . . Ricky Williams . . . . . . . Saints
1998 . . 5. . . . . Curtis Enis . . . . . . . . . Bears
1998 . . 9. . . . . Fred Taylor . . . . . . . . .Jaguars
1997. . 12 . . . . Warrick Dunn . . . . . . . .Buccaneers
1996 . . 6. . . . . Lawrence Phillips . . . . . Rams
1996 . . 8. . . . . Tim Biakabutuka. . . . . . Carolina
1995 . . 1. . . . . Ki-Jana Carter . . . . . . . Bengals
1994 . . 2. . . . . Marshall Faulk . . . . . . . Colts
1993 . . 3. . . . . Garrison Hearst . . . . . . Cardinals
1993. . 10 . . . . Jerome Bettis . . . . . . . .Rams

I agree that 3 is a lot to absorb. Some teams don't need RBs, in the same way we won't draft a QB with the 13th pick. I just think it's a little early to say. We have a long way to go between now and draft day. All 3 (Benson, Brown, Williams) may have good workouts and depending on where traded RBs go (Henry), all 3 could easily go earlier than Jackson last year, etc.

In terms of longevity, the general manager and coach won't have much longevity if they don't get their programs going and a franchise RB can be a quick fix.
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haha...no

recent trends and players that havent performed have changed that
2002 Draft - William Green, 16th
T.J Duckett, 18th
2003 Draft - Willis McGahee, 23rd
Larry Johnson, 27th
2004 Draft - Steven Jackson, 24th
Chris Perry, 26th
Kevin Jones, 30th

The average draft position of a 1st round RB over the last three years has been 23rd. And a reason I think we have seen a drop in the draft position of RBs is because players like Clinton Portis, Julius Jones and Davis. Teams are now saying why should we spend a 1st round pick on a RB when we can try to get a player in the 2nd or later.

Green has turned out to be a bust, Duckett shares the load, Johnson only started getting carries when Holmes got hurt, Jackson and Jones looked like studs while Perry barely touched the ball this year.
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