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Old 01-07-2005   #1
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I think that one of our biggest problems that no one has really mentioned is that...........we don't have a #2 reciever. Think about it. Corey Bradford is a speedy guy with no hands and Jabar Gaffney is more of the slot-3rd down type of guy. I think we should look into taking a receiver in the 2nd. I doubt that Bryon Edwards will last until the 13th, but if Mike Williams is there........I don't know where Mike Williams will be taken. In my opinion he is one of the Top 5 guys in this draft. With his year out of football, it could hurt his draft status. If he is still there at #13 which I doubt, but if he is we shouldn't even have to think about taking him. Just imagin AJ and WIlliams running around. It would improve Carr's numbers greatly and he would LOVE to have those 2 guys in one WR corps. Plus it would take presure off of our OL, Carr would be able to get the ball out quicker and teams would have to drop more guys back to play coverage instead of blitzing.

But who are some guys that could be in the 2nd round? Chris Henry from WVU might be their. This guy has loades of talent......but his attitude is a HUGE problem. I don't know if we could fix it, and if we can't we don't want him in our locker room. What about Throupe or whatever his name is from FSU? Parrish from Miami came out, I wonder what his value would be. What are some other guys out there?
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We need a #1 TE more than we do a #2 WR.
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Big Play Trey Haverty is the best reciever coming out this year, hands down
77 catches 1019 yards with a walkon QB and the best reciever in college stealing his numbers (hicks had 76 for 1177 and 13 tds)
i'll admit that he has to play almost half of his games against the cupcakes (aTm, university of austin, choklahoma and the orange aggies) of the big twelve south (not his fault), but he did have 8 catches 147 yards against the sissies from berkeley ranked 4 overall from the super conference known as the pac ten
he has the size and speed to be effective in the NFL and the ethic and character to be effective on a dom capers team

that being said...
Matt Jones will be on the board for a long time
he said he would change positions if that was what it took to play in the NFL
he would be a slot reciever, but I don't mind the slot being third or fourth in the distribution breakdown

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2nd outside reciever (gaffney, armstrong, starling)
slot (jones, armstrong)

until we get some pass protection we will probably see too many passes to the backs, but another reciever will not fix that

between gaffney, armstrong, and starling we should have enough for our style

in the article about jones they also mention the big fella from northern colorado and n. glover as sleeper recievers
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Gaffney was excellent this year. He had a strech of 3 games where he had 80 yards or more (we were 2-1 in those game). His only downfall was that he disappeared late because Carr kept taking a beating so Carr changed his read from AJ-Gaff-Bradford-Davis to AJ-Davis. Gaff also averaged more yards per catch this year then AJ. Gaff is an excellent number 2.
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Gaffney was excellent this year. He had a strech of 3 games where he had 80 yards or more (we were 2-1 in those game). His only downfall was that he disappeared late because Carr kept taking a beating so Carr changed his read from AJ-Gaff-Bradford-Davis to AJ-Davis. Gaff also averaged more yards per catch this year then AJ. Gaff is an excellent number 2.
I disagree. He's an excellent #3 receiver. He'll never put up numbers like Reggie Wayne, Plaxico Buress, Issac Bruce, Drew Bennet just to name a few "excellent" #2's. But I don't disagree that Gafney had a good year which could have been better had Carr had time to find him more often.

In my perfect world, Joppru comes back next year and finally contributes, we address the O-line and D-line through free agency, move Wong inside, start Peek, and we take Mike Williams in the first round.
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I disagree. He's an excellent #3 receiver. He'll never put up numbers like Reggie Wayne, Plaxico Buress, Issac Bruce, Drew Bennet just to name a few "excellent" #2's. But I don't disagree that Gafney had a good year which could have been better had Carr had time to find him more often.

In my perfect world, Joppru comes back next year and finally contributes, we address the O-line and D-line through free agency, move Wong inside, start Peek, and we take Mike Williams in the first round.
Most of you guys have no patience. You compare these guys but don't see that they didn't produce much early in their careers either. Bennett and Wayne didn't start producing "excellent" numbers till their 3rd and 4th seasons. Drew didn't catch over 33 passes in one year until year 4. Burress only averages 52 catches a year and was drafted as a number 1 guy (top ten pick in the draft). Bruce has been the best of the guys you referenced but even he only averaged 62 catches a year his first 5 seasons in the most wide-open high flying offense in the NFL.

Gaffney is only 24 years old and is catching between 40-50 passes a year in a VERY conservative offense. He will only get better.
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Haverty couldn't carry Mike Williams' jock.
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Haverty couldn't carry Mike Williams' jock.
big mike was surrounded by four/five star players and playing against one of the weakest divisions in college

big play trey is surrounded by one/two star players playing against the bigXII south (who play like pansies, but the media seems to respect them)... not that tech doesn't have four star players, we just don't let them play during games (daugherty, christian, harrell, r johnson, m johnson, filani)

if big mike, before he quit playing (or signed with an agent, whatever euphemism you want to use), played with hicks from sharpstown, he wouldn't have half the numbers he put up
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