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Old 12-31-2008   #1
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Figured I'd start posting my mocks so I can see how they evolve (and how wrong I was). I'm too lazy to give reasoning, but I will explain myself if need be. I also made an alternate mock for the first 4 rounds if anyone wants to see that as well.

1) Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
2) Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
3) Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
4) Zack Follett, LB, Cal
5) Andre Brown, RB, NC State
6) Willie Tuitama, QB, Arizona
7) Davon Drew, TE, East Carolina

UDFA) Gartrell Johnson, RB, Colorado State; Anthony Reddix, FS, Miami; Maurice Crum Jr, LB, Notre Dame; Cecil Newton, C, Tennessee State; Thomas Morstead, P, SMU
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I like the Patrick Chung (I had him Rd 2 in my mock as well) however I feel he doesn't have the feet needed to cover some one in coverage (sorry for a better lack of word choice). What's up with Everette Brown, isn't he a 3-4 guy?

After rd. 3 I don't know those guys but Ron Brace sounds like a nice addittion to our d-line.

Nice job BTW....and happy new year!
Happy New Year to you as well! After watching last night's game, I'm more skeptical of Patrick Chung as well for the same reasons. In the alternate mock, I have us taking Sean Weatherspoon in round 2 (OLB), Courtney Greene of Rutgers round 3 (FS), and Terrance Taylor of Michigan round 4 (NT). Courtney Greene was by far the most impressive FS I saw this bowl season thus far, he did everything well. As for Everette Brown, his size makes people think 3-4 OLB but after watching him play he's got the room to add some weight and plays like a traditional 4-3 DE. FSU moved him to DT on some plays and also ran stunts to the inside.
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1) Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
2) Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
3) Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
4) Zack Follett, LB, Cal
5) Andre Brown, RB, NC State
6) Willie Tuitama, QB, Arizona
7) Davon Drew, TE, East Carolina
1) 15 = fair value, plays position of need, another 1st pick last name Brown
2) everybody wang chung tonight, combine numbers key
3) Brace & Raji inside, BC still does not win, least you know where's the beef
4) Follet is another Adibi type, quick but better size
5) another Brown? low built, powerful good use of pick
6) productive, accurate love taking QB's like this late to develop
7) think TE is excellent area here to take a look at. EC is a good program

I could live with it, not sexy like

1) Taylor Mays, S
2) Greg Hardy, DE
3) Jeremiah Johnson, RB
4) Cody Brown, OLB (gotta have a Brown)
5) Edwin Williams, Center
6) Ryan Purvis, TE
7) Chris Pizzotti, QB

but nice work
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Figured I'd start posting my mocks so I can see how they evolve (and how wrong I was). I'm too lazy to give reasoning, but I will explain myself if need be. I also made an alternate mock for the first 4 rounds if anyone wants to see that as well.

1) Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
2) Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
3) Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
4) Zack Follett, LB, Cal
5) Andre Brown, RB, NC State
6) Willie Tuitama, QB, Arizona
7) Davon Drew, TE, East Carolina

UDFA) Gartrell Johnson, RB, Colorado State; Anthony Reddix, FS, Miami; Maurice Crum Jr, LB, Notre Dame; Cecil Newton, C, Tennessee State; Thomas Morstead, P, SMU
I love your choice in Chung and Brace
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Figured I'd start posting my mocks so I can see how they evolve (and how wrong I was). I'm too lazy to give reasoning, but I will explain myself if need be. I also made an alternate mock for the first 4 rounds if anyone wants to see that as well.

1) Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
2) Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
3) Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
4) Zack Follett, LB, Cal
5) Andre Brown, RB, NC State
6) Willie Tuitama, QB, Arizona
7) Davon Drew, TE, East Carolina

UDFA) Gartrell Johnson, RB, Colorado State; Anthony Reddix, FS, Miami; Maurice Crum Jr, LB, Notre Dame; Cecil Newton, C, Tennessee State; Thomas Morstead, P, SMU
As I don't watch too many college games until the bowls, I know little about your guys. You did address the need areas I have identified. I think we can trade down from 15 as Mays has "sexy" PR as someone stated. I think we can get a great safety in William Moore who has speed 4.45 for FS and strength/tackling for SS. That is the type player Kubes seems to want. If we can get a starter for DB and and extra pick, that is more "sexy" than Mays. The trade down last draft was very successfull. Also, I think a QB selection especially as low as yours is a waste of a pick. I argued this last season also, but there is history for it unfortunately.
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As I don't watch too many college games until the bowls, I know little about your guys. You did address the need areas I have identified. I think we can trade down from 15 as Mays has "sexy" PR as someone stated. I think we can get a great safety in William Moore who has speed 4.45 for FS and strength/tackling for SS. That is the type player Kubes seems to want. If we can get a starter for DB and and extra pick, that is more "sexy" than Mays. The trade down last draft was very successfull. Also, I think a QB selection especially as low as yours is a waste of a pick. I argued this last season also, but there is history for it unfortunately.
not an expert but guys who follow the draft yr round say moore is overweight and only a shadow of the player he was last yr...

its seems we've struck gold this yr as there should be alot of nice de's available at 15 and a nice pick of safeties at 47 or wherever we pick in the 2nd rd
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not an expert but guys who follow the draft yr round say moore is overweight and only a shadow of the player he was last yr...

its seems we've struck gold this yr as there should be alot of nice de's available at 15 and a nice pick of safeties at 47 or wherever we pick in the 2nd rd
So Moore may be over the 220lbs I used? If so, that should be rectified off season and TC but would be interesting as to why he ballooned. If he could turn a 4.5 and lower weight to 215 or so, I drool. That is why I was after him rather than Mays.
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I guess safety seems to be the hot topic so I'll chime in. Taylor Mays scares me, in a bad way. He doesn't get the stats in any department at all, and everyone is obsessed with him solely based on his potential. Moore to me is the more natural safety, but everyone is down on him because this year doesn't compare to his previous season (which in my opinion was almost impossible to duplicate). What most don't realize is that Moore played most of the season hurt and was forced to play out of position for part of it. Whenever I saw him at the Alamo Bowl, they lined him up basically as a nickel CB. He does fit the Kubiak mold though and normally plays around the 220-230 range. Funny thing is I'm not completely sold on drafting either safety in round 1 just because of the talent that lies behind them in rounds 2 and 3.

Out of all the safeties, I'm most impressed with Courtney Greene out of Rutgers. He could of left his junior year, but returned. It started out rough (as did the entire team's start of the season going 1-4), but he caught on at the end and showed why he's a potential starter in the NFL. He's got good size, solid speed, can play in the box and deep, and can make plays in both the run and the pass game. Look at the bowl game for examples. First play on defense he delivers a big blow and forces a fumble. A few series later, he almost picks off a pass over the TE jumping for it (who happens to be a 4th round prospect). Towards the end he finally gets his INT. It will be interesting to see how he performs at the combine.
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I would love to have Chung, Unger and Shipley in this draft since we need O-line and a Safety
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Shipley from Texas? He is coming back to school.

Or Shipley from Penn St? That would be a nice pick.
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William Moore had a great year last year. He had like 9 INTs right?

This year, whatever the excuse may be (injury, overweigth) he has looked bad. He looked like just another guy on the Mizzou defense getting burned.

He is fast for his size and has good ball skills. But, like most players on Mizzou's defense, he is soft. He doesn't hit people unless he has to. And he is a very poor wrap-up tackler. 90% of the time he puts his head down and fails to wrap up.

I think he is vastly overrated as a complete safety. As a pure coverage guy, maybe not.
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Shipley from Texas? He is coming back to school.

Or Shipley from Penn St? That would be a nice pick.
sorry A.Q. Shipley
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