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Old 05-28-2004   #1
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Default Any Word on Vontez Duff???

After being intrigued with what we heard of this guy....we have been left with no new info or insight on how he's coming along....does anyone know whats up with Duff???
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I really dont think he will be any thing more than a 4th string option, a 3rd string at best, but I would like to know if he is challenging JJ for the returner spot.
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By far Duff's best shot to make the team is beating out JJ Moses, which is not as easy as some on the boards might think. Moses might not have been near the home run threat that Dante Hall is but he was by far one of the top return yardage guys in the AFC. Giving the Carr a shorter distance to drive is ALWAYS a good deal!
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he was by far one of the top return yardage guys in the AFC.
To provide some specifics for this comment, Moses was 6th in the AFC. Of those above him only Hall had anywhere near as many returns as Moses--the rest were at 50% or less (give that as much worth as you feel appropriate). And as a side note--there were a total of 4 kick returns for TD's last year--for those that obsess about home run potential. On the flip side he still takes up a roster spot and if the average field position given up is only 1-2 yards vs. a dual role player then JJ needs to watch out.
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For additional comparison:

Moses was 11th in the NFL in kickoff return average.

Jerry Azumah CHI 29.0
Bethel Johnson NE 28.2
Michael Bates NYJ 27.1
Dante Hall KC 25.9
Lamont Brightful BAL 24.7
Reggie Swinton DET 24.1
James Thrash PHI 24.0
Chris Cole DEN 23.8
Michael Lewis NO 23.7
Chad Morton WAS 23.4
J.J. Moses HOU 23.4

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Moses was 27th in the NFL in punt return average

Dante Hall KC 16.3
Brian Westbrook PHI 15.3
Allen Rossum ATL 14.0
Reggie Swinton DET 13.8
Phillip Buchanon OAK 13.6
R.W. McQuarters CHI 12.2
David Allen JAC 12.0
Antwaan Randle El PIT 12.0
Justin McCareins TEN 11.4
Santana Moss NYJ 11.1
Peter Warrick CIN 10.9
Bobby Engram SEA 10.3
Troy Brown NE 10.1
Steve Smith CAR 10.0
Deltha O'Neal DEN 9.5
Michael Lewis NO 9.2
Eric Parker SD 9.0
Charlie Rogers MIA 8.9
Joey Galloway DAL 8.9
Antonio Chatman GB 8.4
Dennis Northcutt CLE 8.2
Lamont Brightful BAL 7.8
Leon Johnson SD 7.7
Zuriel Smith DAL 7.1
Keenan Howry MIN 7.1
Jimmy Williams SF 6.9
J.J. Moses HOU 6.8

Punt return averages

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Also, according to the above sites:

There were 11 kickoffs returned for TD's
There were 16 punts returned for TD's
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...if the average field position given up is only 1-2 yards vs. a dual role player then JJ needs to watch out.
Right, but is Duff a dual role player? From everything I've heard, Duff is not much of a CB and was drafted as a return guy. He'd be what, the 6th or 7th CB on the depth chart? I think the starting return job is more important than who is at the bottom of the depth chart at WR or CB. Seems to me that Duff and Moses are in the same boat...win the return job or risk not making the roster.
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Right, but is Duff a dual role player? From everything I've heard, Duff is not much of a CB and was drafted as a return guy. He'd be what, the 6th or 7th CB on the depth chart? I think the starting return job is more important than who is at the bottom of the depth chart at WR or CB. Seems to me that Duff and Moses are in the same boat...win the return job or risk not making the roster.
Wasn't specifically referring to Duff--the Texans have several WR's and Duff that have potential as returners. If any of them looks like they may actually get play time in their dual position then IMO the pressure is much greater on Moses. As a variation on that, KR and PR could almost be viewed as dual roles with respect to Moses and competition--if one of these guys (and I believe Casserly made the comment that Duff had potential on both which was rare) can do above average on both then JJ may be in trouble because while good at KR's, he was at the bottom on PR's.
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