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Old 12-27-2004   #1
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Thumbs up Thoughts on Carr

I think Carr has shown good progress this year. Throw out that bad three game stretch and the 2 picks today that weren't his fault, and his numbers would being looking really good. One other note is if we'd won the GB/Min games we'd be looking playoffs and a 10-6 finish. Next year he will become a big time star. This guy has what it takes. I may be a littled biased being I'm from Fresno, but he's very good. He'll bring big time excitment to Houston once he gets the talent around him and time to throw and his full confidence. He did it in Fresno (I know Fresno isn't NFL, but) and has shown glimpses of it for Houston. I think he has lots of Favre like qualities. He loves to play, plays hurt, he's tough, can win in the 4th quarter, make all the throws and has the big arm and he can be a fiery leader (would like to see more consistency w/ that). As big a Carr fan as I am he does have his moments of stupidity, but some of that is going away and will continue to go away (favre often makes stupid plays, but makes up for it w/ lots of brilliance), Carr will have lots of big time plays in the coming years. Can't wait for him to have a line and all the weapons on offense.
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*Carr been starter for 3 years, Favre didn't play rookie year, but Carr was hurt lots of 2nd year, so third year comparison not completely accurate, but close enough, because you can't compare Carr to a legend yet, just say'n there's similarities.
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it seems like half of his INTs on the season come in the last seconds of a half
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my thoughts on carr.
hes not the sharpest qb out there but hes got a great arm. needs to make better decisions. he needs to stand in the pocket a little more and not try to go down as easily as he does.
hes should get to the pro bowl a couple of times.
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Most of his INT's do seem to come then. Today Bradford just wasn't looking for the ball he was wide open w/ lots of green in front of him that was inexcusable. Johnson didn't fight for the other ball it shouldn't have been picked, that doesn't bother me he's been to good all season. I think Carr takes his chances at the end of the first half of games and they get picked sometimes. He also tossed 3 picks v Indy the first meeting and a couple of those were at the end of the game when things didn't matter. I don't know if this problem is good or bad. He hasn't seemed to cost us any games we've been down or up by 7 late in games so it doesn't seem to be a problem. It did cost us points today at the end of the half.
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reply to the texanator. I agree, he's not the sharpest QB. I think he will be much more sharp next season. He's not comfortable in the pocket yet. He goes through stretches where he's very sharp. You have to remember how many times he's gotten creamed in 3 years. Some of his sacks are inexcusable, but that will go away w/ a better line and time. He does make lots of plays w/ his feet. He will go to some pro-bowls, but hopefully with that comes a Super Bowl and he's got what it takes. I'm excited about Carr and this team. As he matures and the offense opens up he will be very good. I wish his firey attitude and leadership were more consistent. He has those things, but doesn't show it game to game at times it seems.
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during the first fifteen weeks #8 has thrown about 14 INTs
6 in the last two minutes of the half (2:48 in colt game)
6 on the first possession of a half*
maybe this is normal or I miscounted

it started in the first half of the first preseason game
(:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.Wilson at SD 22. J.Wilson to SD 22 for no gain (A.Johnson).
week one
(:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.Wilson at SD 22. J.Wilson to SD 22 for no gain (A.Johnson).
(2:48) D.Carr pass intended for B.Miller INTERCEPTED by J.Nelson (C.June) at HST 43. J.Nelson to HST 43 for no gain (C.Pitts). they kicked a FG
(1:47) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by V.Hutchins at IND 23. V.Hutchins for 77 yards, TOUCHDOWN. PENALTY on IND-B.Sanders, Taunting, 15 yards, enforced between downs.
(1:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by D.Barrett at NYJ 27. D.Barrett to NYJ 27 for no gain.
this is really good: a twofer
(1:00) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for C.Bradford INTERCEPTED by D.Grant at JAX 29. D.Grant to JAX 33 for 4 yards (J.Wells).
(:18) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by D.Washington at JAX 14. D.Washington to JAX 14 for no gain (A.Johnson).

honorable mention - first possession of half INTs
(10:32) D.Carr pass intended for C.Bradford INTERCEPTED by M.Edwards (I.Gold) at TB 16. M.Edwards to TB 18 for 2 yards (C.Bradford).
(11:37) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by S.Foley (D.Edwards) at HST 49. S.Foley to HST 49 for no gain (S.Wand).
(10:20) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by E.Warfield at KC 0. Touchback.
(6:34) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by G.Brackett at IND 0. Touchback. second possession of 2nd half: first=carr fumble*
(13:37) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.David at HST 38. J.David to HST 37 for 1 yard (C.Bradford).
(9:30) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by S.McGarrahan at TEN 47. S.McGarrahan pushed ob at HST 42 for 11 yards (C.Bradford).

that seems crazy
what do you guys think
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I can't really speek for Carr, i think he is solid, but Andre Johnson is amazing. Gonna be one day be a top 2-3 WR in the NFL, if not #1. Sick player.
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I see lots of shotguns next to his INT's. Carr isn't a shotgun QB and I hate it when they run shotgun. The pass protection is worse and Carr looks to me to have bad footwork out of the shotgun and the rushers get there quicker. Thanks for the time breakdown on INT's. Looks like he throws them early in the half and right before the half if I'm reading right. I think he'll be fine next year I really do. As big of fan as I am of Carr he can be frustrating at times, but the Texans are the same way, coincidence. Both will be much improved next season.
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Buffalo Demon. You have it about right with Carr and Johnson. Johnson is amazing and Carr is pretty close to solid. There are times when his intensity and consentration seems to wane at times during games. With another year under his belt, the draft and a better line he will be solid and then some. Potentially a top 10 or even top 5 type QB. Johnson is already a top 5 player and working his way to the top. You guys look to have a good one in Lee Evans and McGahee. How's Losman coming along, I know Bledsoe is the guy for now and probably next year. If Losman pans out you guys got it good with Losman/McGahee/Evans/ Williams on the O-line and on D Clements/Posey/Spikes
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during the first fifteen weeks #8 has thrown about 14 INTs
6 in the last two minutes of the half (2:48 in colt game)
6 on the first possession of a half*
maybe this is normal or I miscounted

it started in the first half of the first preseason game
(:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.Wilson at SD 22. J.Wilson to SD 22 for no gain (A.Johnson).
week one
(:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.Wilson at SD 22. J.Wilson to SD 22 for no gain (A.Johnson).
(2:48) D.Carr pass intended for B.Miller INTERCEPTED by J.Nelson (C.June) at HST 43. J.Nelson to HST 43 for no gain (C.Pitts). they kicked a FG
(1:47) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by V.Hutchins at IND 23. V.Hutchins for 77 yards, TOUCHDOWN. PENALTY on IND-B.Sanders, Taunting, 15 yards, enforced between downs.
(1:27) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by D.Barrett at NYJ 27. D.Barrett to NYJ 27 for no gain.
this is really good: a twofer
(1:00) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for C.Bradford INTERCEPTED by D.Grant at JAX 29. D.Grant to JAX 33 for 4 yards (J.Wells).
(:18) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by D.Washington at JAX 14. D.Washington to JAX 14 for no gain (A.Johnson).

honorable mention - first possession of half INTs
(10:32) D.Carr pass intended for C.Bradford INTERCEPTED by M.Edwards (I.Gold) at TB 16. M.Edwards to TB 18 for 2 yards (C.Bradford).
(11:37) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by S.Foley (D.Edwards) at HST 49. S.Foley to HST 49 for no gain (S.Wand).
(10:20) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by E.Warfield at KC 0. Touchback.
(6:34) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by G.Brackett at IND 0. Touchback. second possession of 2nd half: first=carr fumble*
(13:37) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by J.David at HST 38. J.David to HST 37 for 1 yard (C.Bradford).
(9:30) D.Carr pass intended for J.Gaffney INTERCEPTED by S.McGarrahan at TEN 47. S.McGarrahan pushed ob at HST 42 for 11 yards (C.Bradford).

that seems crazy
what do you guys think
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Not that there is a good time for an interception, but starting the game and just before half are points in the game where you want your QB making good decisions and executing well.
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At least he's not throwing picks at the end of games. I would like to know how many of the ones before the half would have cost us points or if he was just trying to make a play to get us in field goal range or a TD. The one he threw to AJ yesterday cost us points I know that(AJ should have fought for that ball). The one to Bradford was Bradford's fault. He needs to be more efficient before the half is what it looks like. I have missed the first quarter of most games because it's right when church starts (live in CA) so I can't comment on that. I have caught the first 5-7 minutes of the first quarter in the last 5 games before I've gone to church and he hasn't thrown a pick. He's making better decisions and will continue to get better
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Once again, the 1pm EST start time thing let me watch your team play. Your O-line did not look as bad as I have seen them play on other occasions, but I must say that your D really had some fire. Now, Byron isn't exactly Manning or Favre, and there was no Freddy out there, but still an impressive effort none-the-less. Carr didn't impress me yesterday, other than on a few throws. The nice TD toss to AJ was well thrown, but what were the Jags thinking leaving AJ in man coverage that close to the endzone, and I didn't see any safety support. I think you have a solid, though not spectacular receiver corps outside of AJ. If you had a burner to complete him, you guys could be lethal on O. If nothing else, it would open up more running lanes for DD, who looked like the franchise back that he is today.

Back to the O-line, usually the weakest link of your team. While they played well, they were far from upper echelon, and DD was still getting hit too early on many running plays, and in the back field more than I would like to see. As you may have noticed, if he can get in the second level of D coverage, he does a lot of damage. Carr looked average at best. While I think he managed the game well overall, he made some ill advised throws, and played way below his potential. This could have to do with the Jags D though, as they played pretty solid, really only giving up 14 points to you. You D...*whistles*, fast, aggressive, swarming to the ball....probably the best I can recall them looking. I'd give them a solid "A" for today, and give your offense a "B" as Carr did not look overly special, and the O-line still let DD get hit on the wrong side of the line too much. Just my two cents....but enjoy the win guys, you looked good on Sunday...this should be a sign of things to come.
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I know how much ALL of you are DYING to hear my opinions on your team

Once again, the 1pm EST start time thing let me watch your team play. Your O-line did not look as bad as I have seen them play on other occasions, but I must say that your D really had some fire. Now, Byron isn't exactly Manning or Favre, and there was no Freddy out there, but still an impressive effort none-the-less. Carr didn't impress me yesterday, other than on a few throws. The nice TD toss to AJ was well thrown, but what were the Jags thinking leaving AJ in man coverage that close to the endzone, and I didn't see any safety support. I think you have a solid, though not spectacular receiver corps outside of AJ. If you had a burner to complete him, you guys could be lethal on O. If nothing else, it would open up more running lanes for DD, who looked like the franchise back that he is today.

Back to the O-line, usually the weakest link of your team. While they played well, they were far from upper echelon, and DD was still getting hit too early on many running plays, and in the back field more than I would like to see. As you may have noticed, if he can get in the second level of D coverage, he does a lot of damage. Carr looked average at best. While I think he managed the game well overall, he made some ill advised throws, and played way below his potential. This could have to do with the Jags D though, as they played pretty solid, really only giving up 14 points to you. You D...*whistles*, fast, aggressive, swarming to the ball....probably the best I can recall them looking. I'd give them a solid "A" for today, and give your offense a "B" as Carr did not look overly special, and the O-line still let DD get hit on the wrong side of the line too much. Just my two cents....but enjoy the win guys, you looked good on Sunday...this should be a sign of things to come.
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Carr's a good quarterback with the potential to be a great one. His confidence bothers me though. Caper's said early in the season, when the press was grilling him about the playcalling, that Carr audibles 25% of the time. Every time I have seen carr audible it has been to a run, a draw a couple of times (wild & crazy). I think he needs to have a little more faith in his recievers (Johnson, Armstrong, Gaffney not Bradford) and through a quick fade in the face of a blitz. Thoughts?
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I think it is funny that no one NO ONE talks about this being the first year Carr has been given the green light to change plays at the line. I think that is a huge change for him and I think more improvement will come. Also I think DD was too tentative after the ealry season fumbles, either Wells will get more playing time or another RB will be brought in. More dependablity from the TE will help as well
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Carr does audible to the run a lot. I'm not sure why. He's a gunslinger, w/ a gun slinger's mentality, so I'm not sure why when he has freedom to call 25% of the plays he doesn't audible to a pass more. Hopefully w/ a year of audibles and more confidence he'll make opportunities for himself and the offense. Through the air and on the ground when needed. He's smart enough to make good decisions I just don't think he's got the confidence yet. Maybe with a better line, a little more preparation, and another WR to compliment AJ his audibles will improve.
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I Think Carr Has Really Improved This Year, Ive Reviewed Some Of The Games This Year And Looked At Carr Hes Emerging As A Star/leader For Sure Look In His Eyes Theres A Star For Sure !!! Also I Noticed 7 Ints From Carr Were Tipped Not His Fault ,,plus We Play Way To Safe In The Redzone We Really Do If We Look Back U Could Given Carr Probaly Another 6 Or 7 Tds ....but What I Disliked Most Of All This Year Was The Playcalling It Really Hurt Carrs Numbers And The Texans Victories E.g. We Tied The Vikes Thanx To Carr And The Wr's And We Win The Toss And Capers Wants To Run Run Run D.d.'s Great But Hes Easy To Stop When The Defense Knows Hes Going To Run On First Second And Third Down Yikes ...lets Open It Up A Lil'bit And Protect My Boy...and Youll Watch Carrs Texans Steam Roll Into The 06 Playoffs-out Ps Hey Fresno8 Im From Exeter ,ca Do You Know Where That Is? About 45 Niutes From You And 10 Mins From Visalia..........go Texans And Carr Rules
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I'm in Fowler 15 min south of Fresno. Been to Exeter a few times. Nice town. My girlfriend has cousins who live in Exeter. Carr is on the rise. I too would like to see the play calling opened up. Do you have the NFL ticket to catch all the Texans games.
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I'll make this short n sweet. The only beeoch I have on him is it still seems to me he's puttin a lotta mustard on every pass when sometimes he needs to take a lil something off. Case & point: The INT right before the half vs the Jugs (of piss). If you remember right, he rifled it hard in traffic & CBradford didn't have much time to defend himself much less make the grab. Plus theres been a couple of more times I thought he coulda floated one out there & gotten the desired result. Hopefully it'll all work itself out with more experience. Aside of that I believe hes right on time. The most pleasant surprise for me is his mobility. He's no MVick but you can sure bet DCs around the league account for his mobility. Ok now I'll shut up.
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