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Old 09-25-2008   #1
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yeah I know its early but it seems fitting to start looking around the nation for possible upgrades once again. I don't focus too much on who they have Houston selecting more on where players are rated & I think this one does a very good job of placement or pecking order so to speak. you can check it for weekly updates as well-

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Houston Texans: Myron Rolle, S, Florida State
Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team really hurting for defense. It's not like safety isn't a need, anyway. Poor Texans fans had to watch Ben Roethlisberger and Kerry Collins dissect their stop unit to exact precision this season.
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Obviously, I am a big FSU fan, but this guy has Myron too high. Myron was the number 1 overall recruit a few years ago, Percy Harvin was number 2, but he has never lived up to the hype. Granted he has been solid, but not a playmaker. Maybe this year will be different, but thus far I haven't seen him make many big plays. He has improved every year. Number 9 would be WAY too high. He is MAYBE a first rounder, and that's a big maybe.

Myron is a fantastic student. He is very smart and Mickey Andrews always talks about his preparation and how good it is.

I watch Myron, Tony Carter, and Everette Brown on defense practically the whole time. During the WF game Myron repeatedly got beat by their TE, luckily Skinner missed on most of the throws.

We'll see how the remainder of the season goes, but I don't think he should be a first rounder.

I've also heard that he wants to go to Oxford, and could forgoe the NFL. He wants to be a road scholar, and he is actually well on his way.
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ya i'll be fine with Selvie
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well just finished watching the OSU USC upset game & came away dissapointed with that trojan D, the offense not being to far behind.

first start with Rey Maualuga, his reaction time & reads are a step slow not to mention has a hard time locating a small target. Has all the measureables except plays out of control or not smart I don't know which in any case a top 5 pick is too high would much rather have Selvie.

second, Taylor Mays is a very impressive physical athlete as are most USC starters but is raw, unpolished & plays out of control don't know where his head is at either.

third, Brian Cushing seems more like a good fit in space for what the Texans need from the OLB position but I just didn't notice him much at all in the backfield something I need to see in order to sign off drafting him in the 1st rd. for the Houston Texans.

However, Clay Matthews did impress despite getting undercut by undersized Jacquizz Rodgers (ran for 186 yards and two touchdowns) has a natural abilty to live in the backfield decent speed & athletic ability but first & foremost smart. while not a first rd. talent Clay is the kind of player I was hoping for in Adibi. based on what I saw not to mention his pedigree I would grade him a solid 3rd/4th rd. pick. his football background is both impressive & exciting for his dad was Clay Mattews LB Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons from 1978 to 1996. His brother, Kyle, lettered at safety on USC's 2003 national championship team & uncle Bruce, was a 3-year (1980-82) letterman offensive guard at USC who earned All-American honors in 1982 and then played with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans from 1983 to 2001. His grandfather, Clay Sr., was on the football, wrestling and swimming teams at Georgia Tech in the 1940s and then played in the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in the 1950s talk about lineage

Sorry I got a little carried away silly me you can keep scrolling down to also find rds. 2 & 3. no Clay Matthews.
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However, Clay Matthews did impress despite getting undercut by undersized Jacquizz Rodgers (ran for 186 yards and two touchdowns) has a natural abilty to live in the backfield decent speed & athletic ability but first & foremost smart. while not a first rd. talent Clay is the kind of player I was hoping for in Adibi. based on what I saw not to mention his pedigree I would grade him a solid 3rd/4th rd. pick. his football background is both impressive & exciting for his dad was Clay Mattews LB Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons from 1978 to 1996. His brother, Kyle, lettered at safety on USC's 2003 national championship team & uncle Bruce, was a 3-year (1980-82) letterman offensive guard at USC who earned All-American honors in 1982 and then played with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans from 1983 to 2001. His grandfather, Clay Sr., was on the football, wrestling and swimming teams at Georgia Tech in the 1940s and then played in the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in the 1950s talk about lineage

Sorry I got a little carried away silly me you can keep scrolling down to also find rds. 2 & 3. no Clay Matthews.
Mathews really cought my eye also. Just wrote this on another board.
After watching USC get wooped by Oregan State I have officially put Clay Mathews on my watch list. For thise of you who dont know he is the son of former NFL (Cleveland Browns) linebacker Clay Mathews and nephew of Bruce Mathews former Houston Oilere Lineman. Clay Mathews Sr was one of the best to ever play. But that has nothing to do with why i'll be watching him. He was all over the field and made several big plays, even blocked a field goal.
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ya i'll be fine with Selvie
Hell yes, but hopefully we're not picking that early.

I've had enough of our secondary as well, so William Moore would be option 1A.
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George Selvie DE South Florida

The guy has great big huge hands....very long arms....and is a very articulate young man, A "Texans " player fur shure. But 255 is 255. He started out as a 215 pound center. His body growth has hit it's celling. If they draft him fine. But don't cry when he is getting rolled on rushing plays. Gonna have to have someone rotating with the guy.
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Every time I see Mr. Moore he is bouncing off of a tackle. One thing our Dbs are supposed to be able to do is tackle. The Wr's and Rb's block and the DBs tackle.
That's the first thing. If they can't, you scratch them off our board.
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Moore or Wells?

I'll take Beanie.
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Every time I see Mr. Moore he is bouncing off of a tackle. One thing our Dbs are supposed to be able to do is tackle. The Wr's and Rb's block and the DBs tackle.
That's the first thing. If they can't, you scratch them off our board.
Put me is the "Moore is overrated" group.
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i wouldnt mind brandon spikes to play beside demeco.... he would defently bring an attitude to our D but only thing is character issues but atleast we would actually have a personality
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Looking like this is going to be a good deep draft for DE's and LB's.

What do you guys think of Briam Orakpo, the DE out of Texas?
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Looking like this is going to be a good deep draft for DE's and LB's.

What do you guys think of Briam Orakpo, the DE out of Texas?
I've been high on him for about two years now.

He's always been a solid player, but the new defensive coordinator at Texas is really allowing him to showcase his talents.

Probably a 2nd round talent. Maybe higher by the end of the season...
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I think we'll have a top ten pick going into the draft unfortunately.

but Rick Smith will pull a great trade down netting us an additional 2nd round pick.

1st: OG Duke Robinson (Oklahoma)
2nd: DE Greg Middleton (Indiana)
2nd: SLB Brandon Spikes (Florida)
3rd: RB James Davis (Clemson)- doubtful he's available
4th: Free Safety
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I think we'll have a top ten pick going into the draft unfortunately.

but Rick Smith will pull a great trade down netting us an additional 2nd round pick.

1st: OG Duke Robinson (Oklahoma)
2nd: DE Greg Middleton (Indiana)
2nd: SLB Brandon Spikes (Florida)
3rd: RB James Davis (Clemson)- doubtful he's available
4th: Free Safety
I agree with the trade down but I don't think OG will be our first pick. DE and then two OLB's. We will go guard in the 3rd and RB in the 4th.

But hey, I have only been wrong on every single draft selection so far in the last seven years so who knows what we will do.
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I think we'll have a top ten pick going into the draft unfortunately.

but Rick Smith will pull a great trade down netting us an additional 2nd round pick.

1st: OG Duke Robinson (Oklahoma)
2nd: DE Greg Middleton (Indiana)
2nd: SLB Brandon Spikes (Florida)
3rd: RB James Davis (Clemson)- doubtful he's available
4th: Free Safety

I could ride with this one.
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Houston Texans: Myron Rolle, S, Florida State
Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team really hurting for defense. It's not like safety isn't a need, anyway. Poor Texans fans had to watch Ben Roethlisberger and Kerry Collins dissect their stop unit to exact precision this season.
I like the way they edit to stay current. their pick looks even better this week-

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Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team really hurting for defense. It's not like safety isn't a need, anyway. Poor Texans fans had to watch Ben Roethlisberger, Kerry Collins and David Garrard dissect their stop unit to exact precision this season. Now, C.C. Brown is out for the year. Houston's defense is a mess.
next week they can add Peyton Manning to the list.
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2009 DRAFT PROJECTION http://www.gbnreport.com/

November 12, 2008

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1 Detroit *Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
2 Kansas City *Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
3 Cincinnati *Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
4 San Francisco *Andre Smith OT Alabama
5 Oakland Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
6 Seattle Michael Oher OT Mississippi
7 St. Louis *Vontae Davis CB Illinois
8 Houston Will Moore DB Missouri
9 Cleveland James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State
10 Green Bay Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
11 San Diego Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
12 New Orleans Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
13 Jacksonville Rey Maualuga LB Southern California
14 Buffalo *Ciron Black OT LSU
15 Denver *Chris Wells RB Ohio State
16 Miami *Tim Tebow QB Florida
17 Chicago *Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
18 Indianapolis *Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
19 Minnesota Brian Orakpo DE Texas
20 Detroit (from Dallas) *George Selvie DE South Florida
21 Philadelphia *Taylor Mays FS Southern California
22 New York Jets *LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
23 Tampa Bay *Percy Harvin WR Florida
24 Atlanta Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
25 New England *Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
26 Washington Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
27 Arizona Brian Cushing LB Southern California
28 Baltimore Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
29 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
30 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Jason Smith OT Baylor
31 New York Giants *Brandon Spikes LB Florida
32 Tennessee B.J. Raji DT Boston College
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I don't think Moore is a top 10 talent.

Would much rather have Orakpo there or trade back and get Mays, Moore, or a DE later in the round.
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