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Old 12-13-2004   #1
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Im just curious as to what you all think is the texans #1 priority is.

IMO, i think it is our O-Line (the left side specifically), they are just not gettin it done as far as pass protection goes. It's a new system and all and i thnk the run blocking is starting to come along very nicely, but it could be alot better.
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Offensive Line issues. Point blank.
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Ok i think its been made pretty clear that our O-Line is the #1 prority for the texans,now how do yall think we should adress this issue beacause i have no idea.

Do you think we should get someone in the draft? Free Agency, New O-Line coach? Etc....
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I think we keep working on it with the people we have. Even as much as I'd like to see Steve McKinney get beaten out of a job by a center who can actually do the job I don't see anyone coming in here next season and pushing anyone to the bench. I'm not against drafting an offensive lineman if one merits whatever round he's taken in because you keep adding players. I just think that we're going to be seeing this line for another year at least. Wand and Pitts are young. So is Wade. McKinney is going to get a pass again because the coaches don't want to upset whatever chemistry he has with DC (Like what is a new center going to do? Let more guys through and fumble more snaps?) and Weigert is an asset. There's nothing wrong with the people we've got (mostly) that game experience in this system won't fix.

But yeah, somewhere in there I think it's possible the Texans take an o-lineman. I look for them to again focus on defense though early on. More work is what they need. If that fails then they need to examine which part of the learning process isn't getting it done. Are the players not learning or is the teacher not teaching?
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Do you think we should get someone in the draft? Free Agency, New O-Line coach? Etc....
Seth Wand needs to get stronger. Draft David Baas (C/G).

I wonder if the Texans would go after a guy like Alex Barron if he fell to us in the draft. At the rate we are losing games we might be that high.
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i think we need a franchise LT...that's gotta be our number one need...walter jones is gonna be available and with shaun alexander and hasselback and jones all going to unrestricted FA...jones could be one they don't tag...if they don't tag him...we better make a huge jump for him...actually we better get him...he would improve this line by leaps and bounds...then we could focus our draft back to defense where it needs to be focused
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i Think a rookie, unless a stud will have a learning curve. once we get past the period where all the free agents are tagged and we have a clear landscape to whats available will we be able to decide.

As much as i'd like to spend a 1st round pick on a Tackle, its gonna be at least 1 full season before he is able to develop, a high quality free agent can produce instant dividends and that draft pick and be spent on the defense that needs to get younger fast.


Bolster the offense through free agency, we are just 1 or 2 offensive lineman away from being very dangerous. Defense can be drafted cause all our rookies from last year still have alot to prove. The front 7 needs help... Sharper, Robaire, and Babin are the only ones i'd promise a job next year, the rest should be looked at to have a replacement drafted and groomed.
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I could see the Texans going LT with their #1 pick. And then going D. I could see them doing a number of things. But until we see how the FA period goes, its all speculation, and is subject to change.
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Unless a guy blows them away I can't see them taking a LT in the first round. I think the team will continue to develop Wand. I can see us taking a tackle later though.
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Unless a guy blows them away I can't see them taking a LT in the first round. I think the team will continue to develop Wand. I can see us taking a tackle later though.
I kind of agree with this. But I dont know if the front office can hold back from taking their #1 tackle if he is still on the board. Just like I dont think they would have passed on Gallery, had he been still on the board.
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Walter Jones should be a free agent this offseason. I dont see them using the tag on him again, so if they dont sign him to a long term deal, then he should be available.

Jones - Pitts - Mckinney - Weigert - Wade
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IMO, I doubt they do anything at LT other than a second day pick for issurance.
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Run tackling by the defense has been a major disappointment this year. So the #1 priority should be the "buc"MLB that can run sidline to sideline with instincts enough to get back in pass coverage, and replace Foreman. #2 should be a big 'ol meanie NT to backup and eventually replace Payne. #3a & #3b is where we should be debating OL, (LT will be fine, it is OC & RG that is the real weakness of the O-Line), RB or another CB, or TE. Not bad, we will get two of the four positions addressed. 4-5-6-& 7 is where we Draft for added depth. Symons (QB) is on the practice squad, as is Sloan (WR), and RB Renaldo Works certainly will be factored into the mix next season, so we don't need QB, or WR. Lord (SS, RB, WR, emergency QB) is also an interesting project. My point being we have some pretty good talent on the practice squad that we should get a good look at in next years training camp.

As of the game today where we beat Jax, in Jax, to the tune of 21 to zip. We are 7-9, and with a good game at Reliant Park next week against lowly Cleveland, we should end up the season at 8-8 for the first time in team history. Maybe we are finally turning the corner, and ready to really contend for the division next year. Another first, we beat Tenn both games, and Jax both games, for the first time this year. Now if we just learn to outwit Dungy's version of the cover II, we should beat Indy next year for the first time. Things are looking up for our Texans.
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(OLT through free agency, stop gap to groom Wand)

#1 RB- only possition where starter is needed to take pressure off DD
(Wells might have high trade value) (Texans had tried to get L Jordan before)

#2 DL- speed off the edge

#3 CB- groomed to replace AG

#3B, #4, #5- role players: TE ILB WR
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OLT - As said, unless there is a stud at LT we will not draft one early. In order to get a "stud", we would have to trade up.
C- Steve McKinney is getting mauled by just about every NT/DT he faces. His finesse game might have worked in Indy (with a good surrounding cast) but it doesn't cut it here. They really need to find his eventual replacement this offseason.
RB - DD is adequate but doesn't seem to hold up for a full season. He also hasn't played well injured. We need a power back in this offseason. If a potential stud drops to us in the 1st round, we might jump on it.
WR - AJ has shown he is a stud. It would be nice to find a true #2 to take the pressure off of him. I don't think they have that on the team right now. They might address this need in free agency. Bradford should be gone.
TE - Joppru has done nothing for the team to date. Bruener and Miller have been inadequate as the complete package. The team wants to run some two tight end formations. It makes sense to take a TE with one of the 3rd round picks.
NT - Payne improved as the season went on but is still not back to his previous form. We could use depth here and it is one of the slower positions to learn. Even if we drafted someone high, he might not start until 2006 or later.
ILB - Foreman is not the answer at ILB, and Sharper's play dipped a bit this season. Speed is definitely needed here. We really need to upgrade here with a first day pick.
DE - Not as big of a priority since we have so much money invested in Walker and Smith. We could use depth and someone to rotate in with these two. Hopefully Walker bounces back next year.
CB - If there is a talented young corner available, they might want to get one as their nickel and the eventual replacement for Glenn. Not a high priority just yet.
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Yeah i don't see us adressing the O-Line issue from the draft we have to pick up someone in FA. We can still draft a Tackle in the later round (3rd maybe 2nd), but like it has been previously said, it will take him a year to develop.
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I think Wand will be our guy.. or at least will get another season to show if he CAN be our guy. He has done well.. his weakness seems to be speed.. and that can be improved with technique. He has gotten alot of experience this season, now he will have an offseason to build on it and turn it into production on the field. If he isnt looking better next season, then we may consider a first round LT next year I would think.

We HAVE a good oline.. Wand is the weakest link right now but it is also his first real season.. so you gotta give him time. You gotta give the whole line time really. But the talent is there. Maybe zone blocking just isnt the answer? we have a huge oline.. and that doesnt seem to be part of the recipe for successful zone blocking.

if you look at the denver Oline.. they are ALOT smaller than our guys.


I see us trying to trade up for Derrick Johnson in the first. if that isnt possible then I see us looking at Rodrique Wright.. and if THAT doesnt work out.. then i see us looking at Anttaj Hawthorne and Ronnie Brown.

in the second, if he is available I could see us considering David Baas, but like I said.. Oline isnt as big an issue as people make it out to be right now. Ive heard that Ciatrick Fason the RB is a possibility as well. But he is DDs size.. and I dunno that we would want to risk drafting another small RB.

Honestly.. no one in the second round sticks out to me as someone we would REALLY want.. which makes me beleive that trading up for Derrick Johnson is a big possibility. unless Marcus Spears fell to us... that would be a nice second round pickup.
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