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Old 12-05-2004   #1
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About this team this game shows that this is the third road game that the player just quit playing. This team has taken a major step back from last year. The team last year fought in every game this years group is a bunch of quitters.
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quitters.... that's a bit harsh of a word.

I'm thinking it's just that the confidence and trust is not there. The players may talk it, but it's almost like they're expecting someone else to step up to make the play that they can jump onto and ride that wave.

There doesn't appear to be a "self-improving, nether region kicking, whup the competition, nothing less than a shutout of the opposing team" attitude on this team.

It's more of a "who will save us, we have 3 playmakers only, what play are we running, oops we made a mistake - it's down hill from here" attitude.

All games do not reflect the latter mentality this year.. but it seems a majority do. Games I would think reflect the former attitude.... KC, Oak, Minn, 1st Ten, and GB. I'm just hoping the team develops the former attitude by next year on a full schedule, consistant basis.
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I unfortunatly agree with that A4toZ. I wonder if our mature, responsible, hard work ethic recruiting techniques have come back to bite us in the ***.

We have a solid group of young players with good attitudes who arent afraid to work.. but we dont have anyone to fire them up and get them to play above their abilities.

Honestly.. it may be time that we got a loud personality on this team. A Ray Lewis or Chad Johnson or (dare I say) Terrell Owens type of player. The hard part is finding one with the loud attitude.. and none of the baggage that some of these guys bring. Ray Lewis, IMO, is what we need.. too bad he aint available, or affordable .
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I want to know where is the gary walker that was flexing his muscles after the quincy carter sack of a safety in the endzone.. Like yall, I don't see the guy that fires us up. We have taken a Dom Capers personality on the field.(not saying that is a bad thing)

I have yet seen ANYONE get fired up after a play.. seems we go through the motions.
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And a team that is go through the motions is a team that does not care if it wins or loses.
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The team has taken on the Capers personality. They act like students of the game rather than players of the game. No fire.
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I want to know where is the gary walker that was flexing his muscles after the quincy carter sack of a safety in the endzone.. Like yall, I don't see the guy that fires us up. We have taken a Dom Capers personality on the field.(not saying that is a bad thing)

I have yet seen ANYONE get fired up after a play.. seems we go through the motions.
It looks like the fire is gone. And i don't believe that you can find someone in the draft, who can relit the passion. There's need for a FA who can be the emotional leader and playmaker on the defense.
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All this "fire and emotion" is sooo overrated.

HJam72 is correct. The team is just not good enough yet. It's not a deal where you're actually a good team, but have no desire to win. This is the standard copout used when expectations exceed the level that the team is actually at.
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I tend to think more along the lines of Texas Heat. I believe this team has quit in the big blow-out road games this season. It's in their body language throughout the games and in the expressions on their faces when they get a close up. Once that seed of doubt appears they all have the same look on their face. They're quitting before the game is over, before they're even out of it. They look like someone staring at inevitability. The only time this doesn't happen is when enough good breaks fall into place in a row to turn it around but nobody on this team steps up to make those breaks happen. In short if the other team doesn't blow it against the Texans then the Texans are going to lose.

I can't say I disagree with them completely either. I'm down to very little "faith" in the team as well.
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it may be time that we got a loud personality on this team.
But I don't think we had that loud personality last year did we ? And the team played differently then they do now. They didn't quit when they were way down by multiple touchdowns like they are quitting in the lop sided
losses this year. What's happening, I'm afraid to say, is that the team is really getting used to losing.
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I think we have a player that can bring the fire and emotion to the team, but the player needs more playing time. That player is Peek. He bust his butt to get to the QB or lay a hit on someone on a kickoff. I saw a post on here asking about where's the Gary Walker that flex his muscles after a sack or tackle? I think if Peek has the oppertunity he'll be the new Gary Walker of the team.
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I think we have a player that can bring the fire and emotion to the team, but the player needs more playing time. That player is Peek. He bust his butt to get to the QB or lay a hit on someone on a kickoff. I saw a post on here asking about where's the Gary Walker that flex his muscles after a sack or tackle? I think if Peek has the oppertunity he'll be the new Gary Walker of the team.
That a boy! When Peek gets some PT and some more experience, he will be the emotional leader. The guy already is, He actually shows excitement after he makes a play. Ever noticed how everytime he does something he gets the people around him going. He attracts the camera when he is in too. He shows pride in himself when he plays, he gets so excited about playing he puked on the sideline. He is a ball of energy waiting to explode. And i believe all the hating has died down on his abilities and people can stop saying all he has is a speed rush straight up the field, because sunday he would have got his sack when he was held he used a perfect spin move to the inside to get around Fabini. He has developed and hopefully he will show why he was drafted by this team.
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About this team this game shows that this is the third road game that the player just quit playing. This team has taken a major step back from last year. The team last year fought in every game this years group is a bunch of quitters.
The rest of the league isn't taking the Texans lightly as they did last season. Teams know what can happen if you let a team like this hang around. Does anyone out there really think the Texans were as good as the Patriots. Based on some of the logic I see around here they must have been since they took them to OT last season. The Texans have not taken a step back. It's called a growing curve. It takes expansion teams time to build themselves up to become contenders. Carolina and Jacksonville tried for the quick fix and neither have been great again. I don't consider Carolina's run last season to be anything more than getting every bounce to go your way. Give the Texans time. Going into the season most people expected them to be around .500 at the best and a loss at the Jets was probably what most people figured. They still have a good chance at 7-9, maybe even 8-8 still.
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