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Old 11-29-2004   #1
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I just wonder ......, did Fisher tell his defense to give up the score to stop the clock? 1:47 or so was left in the game, there was no way the Titans could stop the clock. All the Texans had to do was run out the clock and win the game.

The only way for the Titans to get the ball back would be to allow the Texans to score. This would put them down by 10 with a slim shot of scoring a quick TD themselves and getting an onside kick.

It sounds weird, but I think it was a desperate move by Fisher. They were guaranteed to lose if they just watched the Texans run out the clock. By allowing DD the easy td, they had a sliver of hope of tying it up.
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Yup....clearly evident they gave up the rushing score.
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i thought the same thing when i saw it, but after watching houston texans inside the game yesterday and seeing the replay, i dont really think so, guys were trying to get to him our O-line just opened up such a big hole for him, its not like fishers guys just stood there they were trying to get in there, after he got past the d-line there was no secondary to stop him, cause they were stacking the line !
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, after he got past the d-line there was no secondary to stop him, cause they were stacking the line !
That is it. They were all on the line trying to stop the run, and after you get past the line it is all open field. You see it often on short yardage runs, get past the line of scrimmage and you have a pretty big gain.
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The CBS announcers mentioned that as a possibility. I rewound my TIVO about 5-6 times looking for any indicators, and although I can't say for sure, to me it looks like the Texans just manned them up, and blew them away. I didn't see any definitive signs of quitting. It's possible though. Fisher is a brilliant coach imo, and I wouldn't put it past him. Really, that was the only way for them to tie the game. Although slim, their only hope was to get the ball back, and the only way to do that was to let the Texans score. The main reason I say no, other than the visual evidence, is that most coaches don't want to coach players to give up, or lose on purpose, even for one play. It runs counter to everything they teach. Does make you wonder though.
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The main reason I say no, other than the visual evidence, is that most coaches don't want to coach players to give up, or lose on purpose, even for one play. It runs counter to everything they teach. Does make you wonder though.
The players aren't that dense. They can understand the strategy behind giving up the score at 1:42 remaining vs getting the ball back with 5 seconds remaining. I think there's little question the Titans gave up the TD purposely.
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This isn't the first time I've seen a self induced opposing team score...it's not the second or third time either a "great" coach does this. Just because it looked like the Titans stacked the line means nothing IMO. Play action bootlegs makes the O-line move to one side and the opposing teams D-line follow in that same direction while the QB moves to the other.....the play is drawn up like that....to make it look like a run will be going one way when it isn't even a run. I'm not for certain he chose to give up the score in order to have a chance to tie....but Jeff Fisher is known for doing things like that. It's certainly something that can't be scratched out of possibility.
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oh well he still had a really good game even before that 41 yard "gimme" run so i dont care, i was still happy with his performance !
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I think the team has more self respect than to give up a rushing TD like that. Im sure the plan was to get at the ball. Swat it, strip it, get it away from DD.
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Seems to me that the packers did the same thing in the superbowl the first year that Denver won. It didn't work THAT time either.
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Cool! Even though I don't care for the Titans, I have a lot of respect for Coach Fisher. He's a class act.

I had the feeling it wasn't a gimme TD. If that was their strategy, they would have let us have it on 1st down.
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Why would anyone care if it was a gimme? You guys handled the Titans the whole second half and it would not take away from the win at all. Just wondering why everyone was so upset over the idea of it.

BTW, you will never know if it was or was not. The only times coaches have said they let another team score was in the autobiographies after they retired....heh. Fisher would not say he did even if he did. Regardless, the only 2 options the Titans had was to let the Texans score or just try to stop the play and let the clock run out.

Course there is also the "who cares" angle, cause you guys owned that game in the end anyways.
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BTW, you will never know if it was or was not. The only times coaches have said they let another team score was in the autobiographies after they retired....heh. Fisher would not say he did even if he did. Regardless, the only 2 options the Titans had was to let the Texans score or just try to stop the play and let the clock run out.

Well your right it doesn't matter other then having the glory of DD really coming through for us.....As far as Fisher not admitting they may have deliberately let us score i do not believe...He gracefully admitted they let the Jags score, so he is a man that will tell it like it is.....
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I may be wrong but did'nt DD have a solid game well before that touchdown?

I do wonder what he meant about the Jaguars game tho. They lead that game at the point he is talking about, so I wonder what the point would have been. He did not let the Jaguars score tho, he considered it.
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