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Old 11-22-2004   #1
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Last night during his radio show, Capers was asked repeatedly in many different ways about the playcalling, and the fans focus on playcalling.

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"Playcalling is a little overrated. When plays don't work, especially running plays, for whatever reason, fans are going to think that the playcalling looks conservative."

At the risk of sounding like a Capers apologist, I agree with that statement.

Now, having said that, the 'fan' in me admits that going 3 and out passing the ball is easier to stomach than going 3 and out with a run, run, pass. It just looks like you're trying harder, as illogical as that sounds.

Reading between Capers lines, I get this message. He knows the running game is not performing as he expected it, but there is no choice but to keep trying to run, because if you let the defense know that the running game is being abandoned, then Carr will never get any time to throw, no matter how good the offensive line performs. The running game HAS to perform in order to pass.
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when we win, playcalling isn't mentioned , but when we lose, playcalling gets bashed

what gets me, is that Palmer has become the focal point of bashing (and I shake my head at times on what we do), but in all fairness fangio hasn't taken ANY heat. We heard for Palmers head for 2 years WHILE he had a bunch of ROOKIES on the offensive side.. now the defense has 3 rookies starting and no one says a word about getting blown out in 2 out of the last 3 games.

yes we self destructed in the 2nd half, what is hurting us is we can't run the ball and Carr has our longest run from scrimmage. Unbelievable that not ONE of our backs have broke one.. And we have WR's that like to block!.
If I counted right 14 sacks is all we have this season even with Payne and Walker back.
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farve threw the ball 50+ times and they didnt have much of a running game. yet they score 13 points in the 4th after abandoning the run.

i think sometimes you can pass to open up the run.
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farve threw the ball 50+ times and they didnt have much of a running game. yet they score 13 points in the 4th after abandoning the run.
Well, not to sound like a smartass, but when Carr has 14 years experience under his belt, with nearly 50 thousand yards and 365 touchdowns to his credit, then maybe he could get by without a running game. But right now, Carr needs a running game to keep the pressure off.
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The running game isn't working period and hasn't pretty much all year. It is just plain stupid to keep calling running plays in the fourth quarter when we obviously need to pass. If Carr throws an int or gets sacked at least we tried instead of just giving in to 3 and out. We gave the Green Bay game away plain and simple. The Texans are masters of playing good teams close and losing it at the end or in OT. Just look at last season. We have to start winning these close games.
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Well, not to sound like a smartass, but when Carr has 14 years experience under his belt, with nearly 50 thousand yards and 365 touchdowns to his credit, then maybe he could get by without a running game. But right now, Carr needs a running game to keep the pressure off.
Marcus that's a very true statement. Exactly why the Texans keep trying to run the ball. At the same time short passes to the TE & RB despite the excellent WR corps is not a bad way to go, to open up the long ball & run.
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I just got done watching the game on my DVR recording. Andre Johnson's last catch came with 7 minuites left in the 3rd quarter.
How do you expect to win games like this when your stud WR is totally eliminated midway through the 3rd? Do you see the Eagles with McNabb going conservative and not throwing to TO?
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Why on Earth would you keep running the ball up the middle also? Thats the beef of their D-line. How 'bout a sweep instead of off tackle or up the gut? And what happened to throwing the ball to Miller over the middle a couple of times? You know fake a block and fade into the middle for a pass? Maybe try a little harder. Seriously though I thin it's both O-coach and D-coach that are messing things up this year. Our blitzing scheem needs to be a little more original. And set Babin down and let Peek have a little chance. At least when he's out there he makes things happen. Like blocking a punt.
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I just got done watching the game on my DVR recording. Andre Johnson's last catch came with 7 minuites left in the 3rd quarter.
How do you expect to win games like this when your stud WR is totally eliminated midway through the 3rd? Do you see the Eagles with McNabb going conservative and not throwing to TO?

Well, he did have a drop pretty late in the game, though. Can't wait to see you blame Palmer for that, too.
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Well, not to sound like a smartass, but when Carr has 14 years experience under his belt, with nearly 50 thousand yards and 365 touchdowns to his credit, then maybe he could get by without a running game. But right now, Carr needs a running game to keep the pressure off.
i do understand that a running game would help but we dont have one. these teams arent even playing the run and they are stoping us. so i think our best chance of winning would be to pass early when we have at least a little bit of suprise rather than waiting untill later in the game when we are down and have to pass.

in the rare case when we have a lead i think we should do something different than what we have done, since what we are doing doesnt work. in 2+ years we have not had one blowout but we have lost at least 2 or 3 games where we had a double digit lead. that tells me that we are not doing something right. reasonable people try something then if it doesnt work they try something else. i think next time we get a big lead it would be a good time to try something different.
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Heard today that Capers estimates that 25% of the called plays are audibled by Carr at the line of scrimmage. This includes often call pass plays becoming Davis left, Davis right, Davis up the middle. Thats 1 out of every 4 plays called by Palmer, being changed by Carr.
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Sorry......didn't see all these same comments on the other thread. :lipseal
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Carr must have a lot of confidence in davis thats all i got to say !
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