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Old 10-26-2007   #1
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So here it is my first post, and rather than being a smack talking dick from post one I thought I'd just say hi to everyone here at TT. I'm not going to sugarcoat this, I hate the Texans, I hate the fact that Houston and Bud somehow managed to rob me of my favourite football team. I really don't want to argue about that now, let's face it that argument has been done to death; I'm sure we can go round and round about that at some point.

I thought I'd focus on the fact that until a decade ago we we're cheering for the same team... getting our hearts broken by the same team. Now we're getting our hearts broken by two different franchises (one yard short in the Super Bowl for me... and just about every game in Texans history for you guys... okay yeah, that was a shot, I'll cut it out).

Remember Alonzo Highsmith? Damn I loved that guy... I recall a game against the dreaded Bengals in 88 (I think), with the Oilers up by ten midway through the fourth quarter Esiason led Cincinatti to a TD to cut the lead to three points. The momentum seemed all in the Bungals favour. On the ensuing drive the Oilers ran Highsmith on every play, eating up the clock and ultimately scoring a TD. Damn, there was nothing better than seeing that douche bag Sam Wyche and the criminally overhyped Norman Esiason stewing on the sideline as the Oilers ran it down thier throats.

As an Oilers fan since the mid-seventies (as a kid I loved Kenny Burrough and Robert Brazile), I lived a died with that frickin team... and I'm sure that's something many of us share in common. I'm not sure why that Bengals game stands out so much for me. Perhaps it was the fact that it was the initial stages of the successful Moon era, after the team had struggled through much of the eighties.

To this day I still hate the Steelers as much as any franchise in the league. Losing two AFC Championship to the steroid fueled Steelers is something that doesn't leave me (are any of those steroid gobbling offensive lineman still alive). I was 14 at the time that Mike Renfro MADE that catch in the back of the endzone... I cried like a *****. Okay everyone together now, one time with feeling "F the Steelers!!!!!!"

Anyways... I'll stick to talking crap from now on, but at least initially I thought I should come in and talk about the thing we share in common rather than coming in here and spewing smack right from post #1.

I’m quite familiar with Overalls from his trips to go Titans, and other than his inexplicable insistence to follow the Texans he seems like a cool guy. I've also recently become familiar with Silver Oak.

Here's to years of great rivalry games, but let us not completely forget our many shared memories of great wins and heartbreaking losses.

Luv ya blue forever baby!

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Welcome!

Your franchise is a cursed franchise. The owner screwed over so many people in his lifetime, the powers that be decided to let him die of old age before granting his team a Super Bowl victory.

Get used to heartbreak, and once again, Welcome!
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London, Ontario, Canada (pretty much right between Toronto and Detroit).

Following the Oilers in the seventies and early eighties was a *****. Obviously it was before the internet, but it was even prior to the USA Today. I used to subscribe to old newsprint paper called "The Oiler report". It'd generally arrive at my doorstep a month after publication but I loved that rag (I'm sure I still have a few of 'em collecting dust in a box somewhere)
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The spelling of favourite, should have told you Brit or Canadien.
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I'm not going to sugarcoat this, I hate the Texans, I hate the fact that Houston and Bud somehow managed to rob me of my favourite football team.
I just don't follow this logic.

You hate the Texans because Adams moved the Oilers to Tennessee. And you root for the Titans.

That makes no sense to me at all.

The Texans didn't have anything to do with Adams' decision to move the Oilers.
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I just don't follow this logic.

You hate the Texans because Adams moved the Oilers to Tennessee. And you root for the Titans.

That makes no sense to me at all.

The Texans didn't have anything to do with Adams' decision to move the Oilers.
Your first mistake was expecting logic from a Titans fan.
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Your first mistake was expecting logic from a Titans fan.
I'll 2nd that.

I realize he isn't from the Houston area, but for the life of me I will never understand how an Oiler fan from the Houston area can look theirselves in the mirror and root for the Titans. It would be like living in Boston and rooting for Benadick Arnold after he was kicked off the continent.

Spelling error may be a reference to feelings about Dud Adams.

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I just don't follow this logic.

You hate the Texans because Adams moved the Oilers to Tennessee. And you root for the Titans.

That makes no sense to me at all.

The Texans didn't have anything to do with Adams' decision to move the Oilers.
Again I don't want this to turn into a thread debating who's to blame for the Oilers' departure. But as a fan from a far, rightly or wrongly I've always placed part of the blame on the fans in Houston for failing to appreciate the Oilers fully while they were there. When the Browns moved from Cleveland the fans and city went apeshit, when the Oilers left Houston I didn't notice a similar outcry coming from Texas. Through my eyes, Houston didn't fight for their franchise in the same manner as the people of Cleveland (they didn't even put up a fight to keep the name and history the way Browns' fans did). I'm fully aware this is just my opinion and not cut in stone facts. I realize you have a completely different perspective on this and again please let's not turn my first thread into a debate over this, let's just leave that fight for another time.

And yes the fact that the Texans are now a division rival (or at least attempting to be) only fuels my disdain for the team.

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While I go agree that they should have fought to keep the team name and history - Good riddence to bad garbage. The old timers know they are Houston Oilers regardless of what the league and Bud says.
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You should have lived in Houston during the Oiler days. You would have realized how the fans loved the team. That's all I can say.
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RIP Houston Oilers.... 1960-1996. They are dead to me, and the Tinnbreds are no susbtitution.. Thank God, I have my Texans now!!
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Again I don't want this to turn into a thread debating who's to blame for the Oilers' departure. But as a fan from a far, rightly or wrongly I've always placed part of the blame on the fans in Houston for failing to appreciate the Oilers fully while they were there. When the Browns moved from Cleveland the fans and city went apeshit, when the Oilers left Houston I didn't notice a similar outcry coming from Texas. Through my eyes, Houston didn't fight for their franchise in the same manner as the people of Cleveland (they didn't even put up a fight to keep the name and history the way Browns' fans did). I'm fully aware this is just my opinion and not cut in stone facts. I realize you have a completely different perspective on this and again please let's not turn my first thread into a debate over this, let's just leave that fight for another time.

And yes the fact that the Texans are now a division rival (or at least attempting to be) only fuels my disdain for the team.
Read up on your old team before you starting spouting nonsense.

"Oiler Blues: The Story of Pro Football's Most Frustrating Team" by John Pirkle is a good place to start. Education is the key to avoid being ignorant.

Oiler fans were NEVER given a chance to rally for the team. Some lame, half-hearted attempt AFTER Dud had already sealed the deal is what keeps getting mentioned. No amount of fan protests would have mattered at the end of the day.

You fail to comprehend that Dud had no desire to work with the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, wanted the land DONATED to him by the city, and wanted a 100% taxpayer financed stadium that he controlled ALL rights to. Dud could give a rat's ass about his team's history and the loyalty of the city towards his franchise. His only obligation has always been to his bank account, so instead of working with local leaders like other football owners do to build a stadium and continue the tradition, he slithered out of town to the best offer available. He couldn't even have the balls to keep the name, and didn't have the soul to give up the name that he covered up. What does that say about his character, or rather, lack of?

We were already paying for $60 million+ in renovations to the Astrodome, which were the result of Dud threatening to move the team to Jacksonville. We are STILL paying those bonds today. Most civilized folks call that extortion.

See, not actually being here to LIVE IT gives you the typical media brainwashing of assumptions and generalizations. It's sad, really, because you act like we share some kind of history together, but in reality, you only try to demean Houston football fans while promoting a slimeball owner.

Fine, you hate the Texans. Whatever. Big deal. Just another troll on a Texans board as far as most of us are concerned. I'm glad a 'fan' like you moved on with the sleaze. You wouldn't have the class to be one of our own.
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Again I don't want this to turn into a thread debating who's to blame for the Oilers' departure. But as a fan from a far, rightly or wrongly I've always placed part of the blame on the fans in Houston for failing to appreciate the Oilers fully while they were there.
Then you have no idea how it felt to have your team ripped out of your life. To you, they just moved. They were still your team but shabbily treated. To me and other fans from Houston, it was a gaping wound. You have absolutely no idea how badly that hurt.

So, go ahead and hate the Texans because they aren't the Oilers. And go ahead and tell me that I'm the reason. That's OK because I blame you for global warming and you're a dillweed because of it. I'm pretty sure you had something to do with the fires in San Diego, too.
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So here it is my first post, and rather than being a smack talking dick from post one I thought I'd just say hi to everyone here at TT. I'm not going to sugarcoat this, I hate the Texans, I hate the fact that Houston and Bud somehow managed to rob me of my favourite football team. I really don't want to argue about that now, let's face it that argument has been done to death; I'm sure we can go round and round about that at some point.

I thought I'd focus on the fact that until a decade ago we we're cheering for the same team... getting our hearts broken by the same team. Now we're getting our hearts broken by two different franchises (one yard short in the Super Bowl for me... and just about every game in Texans history for you guys... okay yeah, that was a shot, I'll cut it out).

Remember Alonzo Highsmith? Damn I loved that guy... I recall a game against the dreaded Bengals in 88 (I think), with the Oilers up by ten midway through the fourth quarter Esiason led Cincinatti to a TD to cut the lead to three points. The momentum seemed all in the Bungals favour. On the ensuing drive the Oilers ran Highsmith on every play, eating up the clock and ultimately scoring a TD. Damn, there was nothing better than seeing that douche bag Sam Wyche and the criminally overhyped Norman Esiason stewing on the sideline as the Oilers ran it down thier throats.

As an Oilers fan since the mid-seventies (as a kid I loved Kenny Burrough and Robert Brazile), I lived a died with that frickin team... and I'm sure that's something many of us share in common. I'm not sure why that Bengals game stands out so much for me. Perhaps it was the fact that it was the initial stages of the successful Moon era, after the team had struggled through much of the eighties.

To this day I still hate the Steelers as much as any franchise in the league. Losing two AFC Championship to the steroid fueled Steelers is something that doesn't leave me (are any of those steroid gobbling offensive lineman still alive). I was 14 at the time that Mike Renfro MADE that catch in the back of the endzone... I cried like a *****. Okay everyone together now, one time with feeling "F the Steelers!!!!!!"

Anyways... I'll stick to talking crap from now on, but at least initially I thought I should come in and talk about the thing we share in common rather than coming in here and spewing smack right from post #1.

Iím quite familiar with Overalls from his trips to go Titans, and other than his inexplicable insistence to follow the Texans he seems like a cool guy. I've also recently become familiar with Silver Oak.

Here's to years of great rivalry games, but let us not completely forget our many shared memories of great wins and heartbreaking losses.

Luv ya blue forever baby!
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as for your apologist attitude towards Bud, I agree with some of it but at the end of the day, he left because he was a greedy bastard and he took the uniforms and name with him which was punkarse. Bud is fat. /discuss.
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well your a tack fan so -negative points from me, HOWEVER you are a Bob & Dave fan so that makes you ok in my book.

Mr. Show = Greatest Show in History of Mankind

as for your apologist attitude towards Bud, I agree with some of it but at the end of the day, he left because he was a greedy bastard and he took the uniforms and name with him which was punkarse. Bud is fat. /discuss.
You my friend have great taste in comedy. I just finished watching the first season of The Sarah Silverman Program. Damn, it was great to see all of those familiar faces again. Granted it's not of the quality of Mr. Show, but it still made me chuckle mightily at times. Jay Johnston is still the same scene stealing goofball as ever. Just as with the Mr Show DVD's the commentary tracks were hilarious (again Jay at his goofy best).

Bud is greedy. Name me an NFL owner who isn't.

And remember "A lot of people think a lot of things about Hawaii"
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You my friend have great taste in comedy. I just finished watching the first season of The Sarah Silverman Program. Damn, it was great to see all of those familiar faces again. Granted it's not of the quality of Mr. Show, but it still made me chuckle mightily at times. Jay Johnston is still the same scene stealing goofball as ever. Just as with the Mr Show DVD's the commentary tracks were hilarious (again Jay at his goofy best).

Bud is greedy. Name me an NFL owner who isn't.

And remember "A lot of people think a lot of things about Hawaii"
fyi - B&D have a series in the works for HBO. looks to be more sitcom-ish parody than sketch show supposedly.

but yeah the Sarah show is great and chock full of Mr.Show alumni.

make sure since you liked Mr.Show that you check out these shows too:
Wonder Showzen, Upright Citizens Brigade, Tom Goes To The Mayor/Tim & Eric's Great Show, and check YouTube for clips of Bob's FOX sketch show pilot from a few years ago called 'NEXT!'. The Pranksville USA sketch is uber.

back to football, Bud is still fat and the Titans will always be 'one yard short'.

if anyone can break the curse it would be VY, but I dont even think he can do it. i think its unbreakable.
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fyi - B&D have a series in the works for HBO. looks to be more sitcom-ish parody than sketch show supposedly.

but yeah the Sarah show is great and chock full of Mr.Show alumni.

make sure since you liked Mr.Show that you check out these shows too:
Wonder Showzen, Upright Citizens Brigade, Tom Goes To The Mayor/Tim & Eric's Great Show, and check YouTube for clips of Bob's FOX sketch show pilot from a few years ago called 'NEXT!'. The Pranksville USA sketch is uber.

back to football, Bud is still fat and the Titans will always be 'one yard short'.

if anyone can break the curse it would be VY, but I dont even think he can do it. i think its unbreakable.
But Bud does have the best damn toupee in sports. On this I think we all can agree.

I'm quite familiar with every show you mentioned. Get out of my head dude! Are you a member of BUTM? It's a shadow of it's former self but it was once a great indie comedy site.

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Blaming the fans in Houston for the Oilers leaving, even partly, and you wonder why you are met with any discourse? I thought Canada had an excellent education sytem, it is either they do not or you did not partake in it.

The Oilers are dead, you can remember the Oilers fondly without being a fan. We are fans of the Houston Texans, PERIOD!!

As for having the temerity to blame the Houston fans at least partially for the Oilers exit, I agree it's apt to not be popular, but it's been a decade and I thought by now people would be able to pony up and accept their share of the responsibility (be it ever so limited) for the team, and especially the Oilers name and history leaving town for good. It was the fan base of Cleveland that saved the Browns name and history, and Modell was every bit the assclown to Browns fans the Bud was to you in Houston, The fans there saw beyond the owner and realized that it was within there power to retain that history if they were willing to fight for it... that's something that the fans in Houston, for whatever reason, weren't able to achieve.

I realize this is debate and discussion you guys are likely to have had ad nausea, and again it was my intent to avoid getting into it. Even the above paragraph is a direct response to something and not an opinion I would have gone out of my way to share in my first day here at TT. I'm not so naive as to think I'm going to post some clever insight on here and you guys are all going to say "hey, you know what he's right, Bud isn't such a bad guy after all."

I was honestly hoping that someone would voice a similar disgust at the old steroid fueled Steelers that robbed both you and me of the chance at following the Oilers to the Super Bowl. Or perhaps vent a similar hatred towards old Sam Wyche and his clown suit wearing Bungals.

Anyhow guys (and gals?) I can see this thread has come pretty close to getting to the point of no return, so I'll go ahead and give up. Not to worry though I'll be back from time to time, but from nowon to do the expected and talk some smack.

Have a great weekend.

PS: Damn I miss those old Oilers jerseys
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