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Old 09-03-2007   #1
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Default Big Shock - Keye Not Showing Texans In Week 2 Either!!!!!!!!!!

AND YES I'M USING CAPS BECAUSE I'M *******ING PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!

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So much for Keye promising Texan fans to "start 2007 with the Texans and see how it goes".

So much for KEYE promising Texan fans a "balance between the Titans and Texans games."
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If Vince Young gets hurt and is out for the season, what will they do?
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Default Re: Big Shock - Keye Not Showing Texans In Week 2 Either!!!!!!!!!!

I would never wish that on anyone - especially not someone I like - Vince Young - but that's kind of what I'm going to have to start doing I guess.

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if KEYE televised people eating live kittens. SO SO ANGRY!!!!!
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Default Re: Big Shock - Keye Not Showing Texans In Week 2 Either!!!!!!!!!!

can someone exlpain this whole keye to me please, thanks, and what does it matter what VY does?
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Default Re: Big Shock - Keye Not Showing Texans In Week 2 Either!!!!!!!!!!

There are tons of threads about it in this section of the boards.

Short version - Austinites are hung up on Vince Young and can't get over that he isn't here anymore, so they insist that KEYE televises Tennessee Titans games instead of Houston Texans games.... even though they promised to 1 - start the season showing Texans games and 2 - 'balance' the schedule between Texans and Titans games.

...and Austinite Texan fans are pissed.
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I just posted this on the article:

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First, if Mr. Vinson of KEYE were honest about what the fans have stated, he would admit that he has been besieged with emails from rabid Texans fans in the Austin area voicing their outrage. Of course Mr. Vinson won’t admit that, citing ridiculous ratings results. Pretty pathetic!!! An embarrassment to Texans everywhere.
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Keep it simple. Bump threads. Act NICE like SA did. Invite these guys out to parties. I said this at least 10 days ago to use honey to attract the flies. Your method hasn't worked yet. Perhaps a lane change is in order.
Sugar may work in SA, but when you are talking about "his highnesses" back yard, piss and vinegar has to work...


*EDIT... I do agree about the numerous threads, though**
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Which is the reason I call this the Department of Redundancy Department. How many threads need there be to say that KEYE is hosing Austin? We've known this for 2 years...maybe more.

Keep it simple. Bump threads. Act NICE like SA did. Invite these guys out to parties. I said this at least 10 days ago to use honey to attract the flies. Your method hasn't worked yet. Perhaps a lane change is in order.
I tried that last year and what it got was gary Vinson promising to start the season with the Texans only to go back on his word, so I guess being nice means nothing to him. now last year SA got mostly Colts games, if I remember correctly and since they are playing on thursday they can't be seen on sunday so I do not see that being nice has had anything to do with it.

What parties did the program director in SA attend or get invited to? Please tell me all the things that were done in SA that the PD went to. What Texan watch parties or rallys or draft gathering were done and attended by those at your CBS affiliate?
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If Vince Young gets hurt and is out for the season, what will they do?
I've heard that the plan is to hook up a Vince cam on a remotely piloted vehicle. The RPV will follow him around and broadcast his every move on the internet 24/7. It will be simulcast on KEYE from 12-3 every other Sunday so that Longhorn fans will have something to watch as they recover from their hangovers. On alternate Sundays, KEYE will show 2006 Rose Bowl replays in that time slot until Vince recovers from the injury.
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Default Re: Big Shock - Keye Not Showing Texans In Week 2 Either!!!!!!!!!!

Of course its strictly a business decision, so who can blame the TV station over there for making the bottom-line the top priority ? I don't think we're talking about a public-TV station here are we ?
If you've seen the ratings data you know the audiences at the lower range of Titans telecasts in Austin last year pretty much exceeded any of the Texans games that were telecast in that market in 2006.
I dunno if this is more of a statement of VYs enduring popularity in Austin or
just the total apathy they apparently have for the Texans ?
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Of course its strictly a business decision, so who can blame the TV station over there for making the bottom-line the top priority ? I don't think we're talking about a public-TV station here are we ?
If you've seen the ratings data you know the audiences at the lower range of Titans telecasts in Austin last year pretty much exceeded any of the Texans games that were telecast in that market in 2006.
I dunno if this is more of a statement of VYs enduring popularity in Austin or
just the total apathy they apparently have for the Texans ?
Honestly, while I am peeved also, this is just as much the fault of the Texans than anyone else. They stuck with Carr too long and made themselves look like morons during the 2006 draft (of course the jury is still out on that one). As big of a Texans fan as I am even I had a hard time watching them last year. Watching Carr was like listening to someone run their fingers down a chalk board and I couldn't take it anymore. Of course this is all last year and that is what KEYE is going on. The real shame is the Texans have gotten rid of Carr and are finally starting to look like a real team. Many of us fans that held on finally have something to be excited about and now they have pulled the plug.

As someone mentioned this is about business and when the Texans become better business than the Titans this problem will remedy itself. We can all pull for the sophmore and Madden jinxes to kick in and the Texans to take care of business. In the meantime it's not a bad idea to have NFL Sunday Ticket or plan on hitting a good sports bar every weekend. I saw this coming and traded my season tickets for the NFL Sunday Ticket this offseason which now looks like a smart decision considering I could only drive down to Houston a few times a season coupled with all of this.
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Honestly, while I am peeved also, this is just as much the fault of the Texans than anyone else. They stuck with Carr too long and made themselves look like morons during the 2006 draft (of course the jury is still out on that one). As big of a Texans fan as I am even I had a hard time watching them last year. Watching Carr was like listening to someone run their fingers down a chalk board and I couldn't take it anymore. Of course this is all last year and that is what KEYE is going on. The real shame is the Texans have gotten rid of Carr and are finally starting to look like a real team. Many of us fans that held on finally have something to be excited about and now they have pulled the plug.

As someone mentioned this is about business and when the Texans become better business than the Titans this problem will remedy itself. We can all pull for the sophmore and Madden jinxes to kick in and the Texans to take care of business. In the meantime it's not a bad idea to have NFL Sunday Ticket or plan on hitting a good sports bar every weekend. I saw this coming and traded my season tickets for the NFL Sunday Ticket this offseason which now looks like a smart decision considering I could only drive down to Houston a few times a season coupled with all of this.
I wish Vince Young wasn't on the Madden cover this year. I don't want to hear that lame excuse used to rationalize his poor performance this year. If he sucks it up this year, then I want people to except the fact that he, his coaches, and his teammates are responsible for their poor performance not some purported curse. If Mario has a breakout year as well, I want all of those people that , to man up and admit they were wrong for demeaning the Texans over their draft.
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I just wish we lived in our own little ideal world...

KEYE: "KEYE, can I help you?"

"Yes, this is Mr. McNair. We just wanted to let you know, we're pulling your Texan coverage rights forever. We'll be broadcasting the Houston coverage of the game on channel 500. We're also pulling all sponsoships. I hope you live to regret your decisions when the Texans win and people forget who Vince Young is."

I mean, I could understand if they were showing the Cowboys, but the fact they're showing the Titans is a joke in my book.
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I just wish we lived in our own little ideal world...

KEYE: "KEYE, can I help you?"

"Yes, this is Mr. McNair. We just wanted to let you know, we're pulling your Texan coverage rights forever. We'll be broadcasting the Houston coverage of the game on channel 500. We're also pulling all sponsoships. I hope you live to regret your decisions when the Texans win and people forget who Vince Young is."

I mean, I could understand if they were showing the Cowboys, but the fact they're showing the Titans is a joke in my book.
I believe your hypothetical phone conversation is not possible.

It appears this situation is directly out of the hands of the Texans organization and the station.

An NFL team cannot dictate coverage outside a certain area (designated as their home) and a local TV station is probably told what to air when they don't have a home team to cover.

Lower ratings mean less money. I work in the TV syndication business, I see the Nielsen ratings, I process advertiser rebates, and I hear all the talk about ratings and the issues.

Now, I am not an expert on the TV business and I don't know the specifics of the contract between the NFL and National networks.

Having said that though, I can't imagine them running a show that will make them less money. Which is what you guys are suggesting!

The Networks get paid off the Nielsen ratings. Complain all you want about the ratings, how they are done, but that is the agreed upon method for advertisers to pay for TV spots. Spots in my business are paid in advance and settled many months later.

If you have lower ratings, you have to either pay them money back or do make good contracts. Which means you have accountants and Nielsen ratings analyst people making decisions that have no idea of the local issues regarding a broadcast. Their job is to make money!

So, if there are lower ratings, that means less money, which means less money for the NFL, which means less money for the players the way the CBA works with revenue sharing.

As you can see, it's less money for Texans players and the organization if the ratings aren't that good in Austin and there is a better alternative.

If the ratings are there, the Texans will be shown in Austin. It's really that simple!

To help the situation, the Texans should:

A. Market the Texans in Austin (which does not include having Toro and few cheerleader hanging out at some kid's birthday party, I am taking about spending some real money with a real ad campaign)

B. Win meaningful football games and push for the playoffs

I really think you guys complaining to the station is pointless. They are a business and I suspect the coverage is dictated to them anyway from a National level.
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I just wish we lived in our own little ideal world...

KEYE: "KEYE, can I help you?"

"Yes, this is Mr. McNair. We just wanted to let you know, we're pulling your Texan coverage rights forever. We'll be broadcasting the Houston coverage of the game on channel 500. We're also pulling all sponsoships. I hope you live to regret your decisions when the Texans win and people forget who Vince Young is."

I mean, I could understand if they were showing the Cowboys, but the fact they're showing the Titans is a joke in my book.

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If Vince Young gets hurt and is out for the season, what will they do?
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The Texans coverage in Austin is generally pathetic. Check out this article from Sept 4. It says this is the Texans 7th season and, apparently, Jason Babin is still on the team...

http://www.statesman.com/sports/cont...xans_main.html
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I'm not sure what good it will do, but here is a letter I just sent to K-EYE backers/financial supporters here in Austin.


Dear Sirs,
I am writing you this letter to let you know that I and many Houston Texans fans will be starting a boycott of your business's due to your support of K-EYE 42 , Austin's CBS affiliate station, and the fact that they will not support a local team and that they are using a feeble excuse, with no actual statistics to judge this upon.
If we are to support local business interests here in Austin, shouldn't these business interest also support other local interests?
Gary Vinson is using the excuse that Vince Young, being a U.T. ex, is a bigger draw than a whole team. By this reasoning, shouldn't they also play virtually every team that an ex U.T. player now plays for?
Until such time as you, the financial supporters, express this to K-EYE and demand they also support local interests, we will no longer be doing business with your companies.
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