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Old 11-04-2004   #1
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Default What's your impression of Babin so far?

Seems like he is dropped into coverage quite a bit, which you'd think would be one of the harder things he'd have to do. Much more than I expected too.

I did some google searches and came up with something else interesting:
Starting linebacker Jason Babin of Western Michigan has 2.0 sacks on the season along with a team-best 26 quarterback pressures.

NFL.com doesn't have hurries as a sortable stat, so if anyone can find that, I'd appreciate it.
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Babin has good feet and good hands to get passed defenders, but i think sometimes he gives up on the plays a little to early. Plus we have to remember he is playing a new position and it takes a little time to get all the techinques down to be affective ! But i will say from what i've seen he looks to be progrssing very good and i'm excited about him playing here for years to come. And i dont know about dropping out into coverage, he seems a little slow unless were playing zone to where he dont have to chase recievers around, but its something i have'nt really noticed !
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I agree with TexansTrueFan. Babin is showing progress each week and since he is playing a new position, he still has alot to learn.

To me, it seems likes he's getting pushed out too easily by the stronger offensive linemen. Conditioning and technique improvement will make him a much better player.
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I agree with TexansTrueFan. Babin is showing progress each week and since he is playing a new position, he still has alot to learn.

To me, it seems likes he's getting pushed out too easily by the stronger offensive linemen. Conditioning and technique improvement will make him a much better player.

Yeah when he's in there trying to spin of the O-line he gets nowhere (occasionally gets pressure) He needs to use his hands a little more and spin a little less, and it seems like he tries to run around the oline sometimes and you cant do that, unless you expect our secondary to cover the WR all day !
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yes hes damn good and hes healthy...thats all i want right now, no injuries that might restrict him....GOOOO TEXANSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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oh i agree with you he's a good player he just has a lot to learn before he is a REALLY good player !
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He obviously doesn't have the raw athletic ability to be the pass rushing phenom he was advertised to be coming out of college - not at the NFL level,
so it's unfortunate that we paid what now appears to be an ill advised high premium for him. However, he may well turn out to be a reliable, competant linebacker for us.
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That is just silly and ridiculous.

We gave up second day picks and ONE net first day pick. How is that such a high price? We gave up a net 3rd. The second rd pick was displaced with a first round pick. Instead of 3 first day picks we had 2. That is not a steep price for an NFL starter.
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err.. i dont agree with that. Doesnt have the athletic ability? If anything.. what he has right now is pure athletic ability.. what he doesnt have is good technique.

Ive seen faster OLBs.. but none of them were his size. The guy is fast, he is strong.. and despite what yall keep saying about him "quitting" on plays.. he HAS a nonstop motor on him... its one of the reasons we drafted him. if he seemed to "quit" on certain plays during the jags game.. there is probably a reason for it.


Also, I havent really seen him get burned on many plays since the beggining of the season. Early on I saw him mess up on some coverage.. but other than that.. I dont see passes coming his way that often.

As far as the run goes.. I havent seen alot of guys going to the outside either.. and I havent seen babin miss many tackles when they did come his way.

Maybe im not looking hard enough? It seems to me the biggest complaint im seeing is that he isnt getting enough penetration... give him some damn time! hes a freakin rookie.. from a sub par division in college.. he hasnt seen competition like this, and obviously he is going to need some time to LEARN.

bleh.. ok.. ill give you this much.. he isnt going to be rookie of the year.. he isnt leading the league in sacks..and he is not allowing us to put 10 DBs on the field while he holds the line.. with that in mind, i can understand why so many see him as a bust. :P
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babin is no bust he is a play maker who needs a lil more play time at his position i see a lot of potential in his ability
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He obviously doesn't have the raw athletic ability to be the pass rushing phenom he was advertised to be coming out of college - not at the NFL level,
so it's unfortunate that we paid what now appears to be an ill advised high premium for him. However, he may well turn out to be a reliable, competant linebacker for us.
The guy is leading the team on QB hurries--27 so far. JMO but if that and the 2 sacks is disappointing, maybe the expectation is too high rather than his athleticism being too low.
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