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Old 06-20-2007   #1
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The Babin deal. The Pburnt deal. Carr. Everyone has gone back years after the fact and picked our worst moves apart. This is your chance to second guess THIS years draft. Lets limit the discussion to this years draft please. No trade talk. Just what we actually had available. Here are our picks for those not paying attention. And I'll start with the different selections I wanted to make. Make your picks here where you can actually come back a year later and say "We should have done this - I said so a year ago"

1 10(10) Amobi Okoye DT LOUISVILLE
3 9(73) Jacoby Jones WR LANE
4 24(123) Fred Bennett CB SOUTH CAROLINA
5 7(144) Brandon Harrison S STANFORD
5 26(163) Brandon Frye OT VIRGINIA TECH
6 9(183) Kasey Studdard OG TEXAS
7 8(218) Zach Diles ILB KANSAS STATE

Overall I like our draft. Not sure about adding an ILB. But it is the 2nd round. I wanted to address WR2 as bad as anybody but I don't think we did. If there is one glaring hole that would be it. I consider rounds 4-7 a crap shoot really. The most notable selection I would have done different is our 3rd round pick. We didn't need another WR3/WR4 on the roster. I would have liked one of three guys.

Michael Bush. I know we had Green by then. But let the two rotate. Bush has shown "IT" at the college level and was a preseason 1st round pick. He broke his leg (not a chronic injury) and missed the entire 2006 season. Green only has a few years left (even with the recent success of Dillon, Martin and Barber 30 year old backs just don't do well). I don't have much faith in Jones. We've already got a fast as lightning kick returner on our team. I see no reason to add another one.

The other guy I would have liked to have seen was Hunt. Speed became a question but he was a first or second round talent going into the combine. He doesn't juke much (sounds perfect for our system) and he may not be a home run threat, his 4.55 40 wasn't great but its more than passable.

Aaron Rouse. He was a disappointment in the 2006 season. But can we please get someone in either safety spot that the other team at least thinks about? I know we needed a WR... but Jones certainly isn't WR2. Aaron Rouse at least would qualify as a guy you could use as a SS2 and there were going to be more WRs in FA than there were safeties. There are questions about his attitude, which worries me... but maybe being picked in the 3rd round (instead of the 1st like many were talking preseason) will humble him a little.

Oh well... anybody else have any picks they would have like to done differently?

I should probably pick one guy... and if I had to it would be tough. I guess since we have Green on the roster it would have to be Rouse... but I'm not as high on him as I am Bush or Hunt. If you tortured me though I would go in this order.

Rouse
Bush
Hunt

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Old 06-20-2007   #2
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Maybe I would've been wrong, but I would've taken Darryl Revis, CB (I think that was his name) in the first round. I believe Nelson (FS) was gone? There was also that possible trade with Denver that I would've definitely taken, if possible. After that, all I can say is that I would've been leaning heavily toward getting a FS on the first day. I've forgotten most of what I knew (or thought I did) on draft day.

PS-I thought that Revis would be the perfect CB teammate for D-Rob, because Revis is taller and not much less skilled at all. In fact, Revis will probably be better than D-Rob in 3 or four years.
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Reggie Nelson was still on the board..

I wouldn't have taken him nor Revis over Okoye at 10 though...
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With the Schaub trade, I would have gone Leon Hall in the 1st or Revis, depending on who fits the system better. We need another CB a lot more than we need another expensive D-Lineman.

Without Schaub trade:

1. Quinn
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Personally, my move would have been to trade back with the Broncos to pick up a second and hopefully one other pick.

Then I would have taken Staley in the first and Kalil in the second.

That might not have been the sexiest thing to do and it wouldn't have set us up to win this season, but if Staley pans out (and he looks like a Kubiak kind of lineman) then this would have set us on the line.
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A trade down for a 1. Staley and 2. Jarrett would have been cool.
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Other than taking Carr, I really don't have anything to gripe about. I'll chalk up all the other moves to 'things just not working out'...
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would have taken josh gattis in the 4th, cb in the 5th. gattis is a damn player. okoye and jacoby im cool with, im actually not gonna throw stones at the rest.
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Default Re: What would you have done

I would have taken Okoye at 10. Instead of taking Jacoby Jones in the 3rd though I probably would have drafted Jason Hill (I think that's his name), the WR from Washington State. Besides that though I can't really complain about the rest of the draft.
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can we revive this thread after TC? I want to see how they work out there and if they make the cut, then I'll have perfect 20/20 hindsight!

as an aside, I think we get a blue chip CB or Safety next draft and if Babin doesn't work out for us, can we please trade him for a 2nd rounder?
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Instead of signing Babin, I would have signed a playmaking FS by the name of Bob Sanders.
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I refuse to state what I would have done in the draft until I've had at least half of a season of play to evaluate so I can decide what my decisons should have, I mean would have, been.
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I would have used the third pick to try to get someone who could step in and reasonably compete for a starting spot at either CB or FS. Instead, we got a WR who may not even be able to step in and make a material contribution this season.

Although I like the upside potential of JJ, my next choice for this pick would have been a WR with Div. 1 experience. It is my understanding that there were several good WRs that got drafted immediately after we made this pick.

I like the Amobi pick...we have a lot of holes and you have to take the best player on the board. It would have been nice to get help on the o-line or the secondary, but not if it means not getting quality at 10.
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Instead of signing Babin, I would have signed a playmaking FS by the name of Bob Sanders.
Almost as good as Jabar Gaffney over that jobber Clinton Portis
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can we revive this thread after TC? I want to see how they work out there and if they make the cut, then I'll have perfect 20/20 hindsight!

as an aside, I think we get a blue chip CB or Safety next draft and if Babin doesn't work out for us, can we please trade him for a 2nd rounder?
how about we revive it now?
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I would have taken Okoye at 10. Instead of taking Jacoby Jones in the 3rd though I probably would have drafted Jason Hill (I think that's his name), the WR from Washington State. Besides that though I can't really complain about the rest of the draft.
I agree 100% with you. This was my thinking on draft day...but I really can't complain with the Jacoby Jones pick because I don't know the guy. I mean how many people here can tell me they have seen Jacoby play more than one game? Or how many of you can tell me you have seen him play one game? Jason Hill was a good prospect and would have been a good 3rd round choice in my opinion but who is to say that Jacoby isn't a good 3rd round choice also (or even a better prospect than Hill)?

What is interesting about that selection is that after we picked Jacoby Jones, 6 out of the next 7 selections were wide receivers. I think that Jacoby would have been selected by one of these teams had we not selected him. Obviously, the Texans were partial to him so they made a good decision on when to select him. People were saying on draft day that it may have been a reach in the first half of the 3rd round but hey, 6 out of the next 7 selections were WRs. IMO it was either grab him then or don't get him. And that goes for most of the remaining decent receivers as well because the decent remaining players of the group were getting snatched up in that first half of the 3rd round. If we were going to get a decent WR after we took Okoye it was going to be at that spot...let's just hope we took the right one.

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I agree 100% with you. This was my thinking on draft day...but I really can't complain with the Jacoby Jones pick because I don't know the guy. I mean how many people here can tell me they have seen Jacoby play more than one game? Or how many of you can tell me you have seen him play one game? Jason Hill was a good prospect and would have been a good 3rd round choice in my opinion but who is to say that Jacoby isn't a good 3rd round choice also (or even a better prospect than Hill)?

What is interesting about that selection is that after we picked Jacoby Jones, 6 out of the next 7 selections were wide receivers. I think that Jacoby would have been selected by one of these teams had we not selected him. Obviously, the Texans were partial to him so they made a good decision on when to select him. People were saying on draft day that it may have been a reach in the first half of the 3rd round but hey, 6 out of the next 7 selections were WRs. IMO it was either grab him then or don't get him. And that goes for most of the remaining decent receivers as well because the decent remaining players of the group were getting snatched up in that first half of the 3rd round. If we were going to get a decent WR after we took Okoye it was going to be at that spot...let's just hope we took the right one.
That could be true. I won't argue that... I just don't think he steps in and is a WR2 this year. Even Kubes is talking about Walters as the 2. I do think that we could have gotten a safety at that spot. Or a running back who could be the future rb of the team..

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That could be true. I won't argue that... I just don't think he steps in and is a WR2 this year. Even Kubes is talking about Walters as the 2. I do think that we could have gotten a safety at that spot. Or a running back who could be the future rb of the team..

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so you dont like that we picked a guy that could be our future at wr because we could've gotten a guy that could be our future at rb?

anyway im not going to say anything about our draft picks or what we should've done until i see them play some
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so you dont like that we picked a guy that could be our future at wr because we could've gotten a guy that could be our future at rb?

anyway im not going to say anything about our draft picks or what we should've done until i see them play some
I have questions about our guy of the future. As I see it we already have a burner that we spent a 4th rounder on. I think that any of the 3 I mentioned in my original post could end up being the future at a 1 deep position. If we don't fix the S spot we are definitely in trouble and we had a chance to get a guy who at least physically is capable of footing the bill... I wasn't huge on the Green signing because of his age but once we signed him I thought that Michael Bush would be a great gamble because you could bring in Green, let him get the majority of the carries and bring Bush along slowly.
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