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Old 10-31-2004   #1
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Leftwich---------------------Carr
24-39 ----------------------26-34
61.5% -----------------------76.5%
220 Yards----------------------286 Yards
9.2 Avg ------------------------11.0 Avg
0 TD ---------------------------1 TD
2 INT ---------------------------0 INT
55.5 QB Rating -------------------110.7 QB Rating



1 sack ----------------------------- 0 sacks

2 rushes ----------------------------- 3 rushes
4 yards --------------------------------14 yards
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Carr played well today. If it weren't for that bonehead move by Gaff the score would have been a bit more in our favor. And I also can't believe that we didn't get a call on that obvious late takedown on Carr. But then again, we got away with a pretty big face mask, so it kind of evens out.

All in all I am pleased with the win. We have won 4 out of our last 5, and we have a super tough schedule coming up with road games in Indy and Denver.
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Carr also did a great job from passing it to his wide outs to checking off to the backs, he didn't rely on Dominck Davis too much. Good job to both QBs for coming back from lower leg injuries.
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Carr played great today! However, I still think it's a toss-up between who is the better QB. Numbers only tell half the story, plus, it is obvious who has the better supporting cast behind him. Whoever said that Jacksonville has a better recieving core is completely on crack. One thing that we do know for sure: Carr can do more things than Leftwich can. Either way, Leftwich is still a great QB.

I do think Carr might have a tendency to abandon the pocket too soon though. There were times when the pocket looked pretty comfy for him, but he decided to roll out anyway. Maybe because nobody was open? Anyway, you can't blame him too much as he's been running for his life a whole lot his 3-year NFL career.

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ya, i'm just talking about the numbers in todays game, and they mean alot. Leftwich gave up the ball 2 times once to seal the game, while Carr threw for over 280 yards, another touchdown, no turnovers (one close call) and over 75% passing pct.


of course not a highlight filled game, and TO's Dance, the shootout in KC,and the Pats losing will all be bigger stories.
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I feel Carr showed today who truly is the best young QB !!! I mean loo at carrs numbers for the season and look at what a turn around we've had since our first 2 games ,,,gotta give a lot of tha credit to our defense though they have stepped it up lately !!!!!
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I feel Carr showed today who truly is the best young QB !!! I mean loo at carrs numbers for the season and look at what a turn around we've had since our first 2 games ,,,gotta give a lot of tha credit to our defense though they have stepped it up lately !!!!!
Give Leftwich the chance to get into his 3rd year first. Most people agree that a QB needs to show what he can do in his 3rd year, and Leftwich is not there yet.
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David Carr delivered a mistake-free performance in the biggest game of his brief NFL career. It's time to stop calling Carr one of the best young quarterbacks in the league. He has become one of the best quarterbacks in the league, regardless of experience.

GRADE: A (quote from houston chronicle.)
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I do think Carr might have a tendency to abandon the pocket too soon though. There were times when the pocket looked pretty comfy for him, but he decided to roll out anyway. Maybe because nobody was open?
If there is nothing there in the pocket, a QB can put pressure on the defense by scrambling. That's how Leftwich made the big play downfield to Jimmy Smith last week against Indy.

I will agree that Carr had a lot more time in the pocket today than usual. The Jags are in dire need of a pass rusher.
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If there is nothing there in the pocket, a QB can put pressure on the defense by scrambling. That's how Leftwich made the big play downfield to Jimmy Smith last week against Indy.

I will agree that Carr had a lot more time in the pocket today than usual. The Jags are in dire need of a pass rusher.
Pass Rusher and another CB and we would be set
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I thought you guys blew it when you passed on Dunta Robinson. There were exactly two elite corners in the draft last year and you take guys take a WR in a WR deep draft.
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On top of all the stats, the one I really like to see is the "0 Sacks" for the game. That is awesome and is what we have been saying from the start. If the line can give Carr some time he will be awesome. He is really starting to show it. Carr and Johnson definitely have a big future together.
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I thought you guys blew it when you passed on Dunta Robinson. There were exactly two elite corners in the draft last year and you take guys take a WR in a WR deep draft.
The reason I believe they passed on him was because Jack likes the Bigger CB. Yea i would love to have DRob right now but atleast Reggie Williams was showing a little life.
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I do think Carr might have a tendency to abandon the pocket too soon though. There were times when the pocket looked pretty comfy for him, but he decided to roll out anyway. Maybe because nobody was open? Anyway, you can't blame him too much as he's been running for his life a whole lot his 3-year NFL career.


76 sacks in year one of his carreer might have something to do with that .

When the QB breaks contain it forces the DB's to make a decision , stay w/ the reciever or come up to stop the QB . Facing a "mobile QB" makes for a long day for the D . Just ask Denver ..... Vick made them miserable. Some of the most effective plays today were when the play was designed for Carr to roll out . Just another weapon for Chris Palmer to work into the gameplan ...... Wish i had those kinda problems
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david carr is a outlaw, he is off tha wall krunk off tha chain nuttts touch tha grass type a qb.
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