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Old 10-20-2004   #1
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Lightbulb MUST read: For all you playcalling critics

In third season, Palmer's plan looks like a winner.

Fairness has no place in cyberspace, which might begin to explain why at times during the Texans' first two seasons, there was actually an online petition calling for offensive coordinator Chris Palmer's job . . . . . .
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"We have an enormous amount of talent on the offensive side of the football," veteran tight end Mark Bruener said. "If we can just get the ball into those guys' hands guys like Andre Johnson, Corey Bradford, Jabar Gaffney and Derick Armstrong we can be a very effective offense."
I wonder if that is a direct qoute from Bruenor.. if so.. makes me wonder if faith in D. Davis has been snuffed out in the lockeroom as well as on these boards.

that could spell the end for Davis.
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From that article ..

"I like our big-play capability," Capers said. "Probably through the first six games, that's been the biggest change in our football team. That's one of the reasons why we've scored more points than we have in the past and why we have the capability of coming back (from 21 points down) against the Vikings like we did in the second half."

So while the running game has stalled, the throwing game is getting stronger each game...
no doubt the reverse of what Capers & Palmer want to see.
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Im one of those who doesnt like the playcalling ..... BUT im not complaining about the disparrity between run / pass . In fact i'd much rather see MORE running if it could be done efficiently . Since they can only seem to manage about 3.3 ypc that isnt gonna happen.

Ive said this before and people twist my words into something totally different so this time im gonna explain it in such a way that you cant make it into something else ....

My complaints are simple . The Texans dont use ALL the weapons they have at their disposal . You seldom see play action , almost never see a guard or tackle pull , screen passes are pretty much non-existant and essentially just an extension of the running game . The tight ends have pretty much been forgotten . Timing route's have never been used much by this team .
The running game is elementary , lets hand it to DD or Wells and let them run it between the tackles . With Wells i can see that as a plan but with DD , (or Hollings for that matter) they need to get him in Space where he can make an LB or DB look like a fool .

Basicly they need to be more creative in their play calling , not just throw deep to AJ or run DD between the tackles . I'd like to see them be able to run effeciently 35+ times a game . That makes those DB's have to concentrate on the run just as much as the pass giving the recievers a better chance of beating them.

Teams know coming in what Capers wants to do , and thats pretty much what every coach would like to do wiht the exception of maybe Martz ( he's plain crazy) and thats Run the ball . So they put 8 in the box and make DC beat them with his arm , which he has been able to do this season with some regularity. The need to look for ways to exploit what defenses come in attempting to do not just try to overpower them at the line . It clearly isnt working when you avg 3.3 yards per carry , their avg for the season . Thats good enough for 30th in the NFL . Only Detroit (3.2) and Miami (3.0) have an avg per carry lower.

Billy Miller and Mark Bruener have a grand total of Eight (8) catches between them , both of these guy's are tough match-ups for the D . Use them and take some heat away from your outside recievers . Ya think if the TE makes a few catches over the middle that safety can afford to play over the top of AJ ? ..... not to mention those guy's are a LOAD to bring down for a DB.

Play Action is pretty nifty , Safety and or LB bites on the play fake and the reciever gets a step or two on him . Can ya imagine AJ gettin an EXTRA step on someone ? How about Bradford with his speed ?

Screen Passes ... an extension of the running game that get the back into the open field giving them a chance to make some moves on LB's and DB's without havin to bother with the D-line .

How bout a Draw play instead of running between the tackles on 3rd and 4 ?Maybe a trap or Delay ?


Balance to me doesnt mean run the ball 35 times for 2.7 yards a carry (the avg on sunday against the Titanics) and throwing it 26 for an avg of 10.2 (also the avg per pass against hte Titanics) . They need to find ways to run the ball more effeciently , NOT RUN LESS . Let me say that again ....

They need to find ways to run the ball more effeciently , NOT RUN LESS :hehe:
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I can agree with some of your critisims, but not all or even most. If anything, I am glad to see them getting away from screen passes. The first two years, even I could tell you when a screen pass was coming. I do agree with getting the TE's a bit more involved, especially when teams play alot of cover 2 against us. But, all in all, I couldn't be more pleased with the passing game. With the run, I agree that they need more imagination, but alot of the problems can be traced to poor run blocking, a new scheme, and injuries to DD, Hollings, and Wells, rather that a lack of imagination. My chief complaint, and it isn't a biggie, is the timing of when they call certain running plays, rather than the total number or type. But all in all, this year, I am much more satisfied with how the play calls have gone in general, especially since the 3rd game.
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Ive NEVER said "Fire Palmer" . He's done a pretty good job of bringing DC along step by step , not throwing the whole playbook at him at once and overwhelming him , same can be said of the way he's dealt with AJ .

My main point is I'd like to see more than an avg of 3.3 ypc on running plays . The easiest way to do that is force the D NOT to put 8 or more in the box . Or use some mis-direction to get the D moving one way and the ball the other . I cant think of a single team who can run the ball effectively against a stacked line.

The only reason no-one is complaining about the 2.7 ypc this week against the Titanics is that they won the game . The 4 turnovers played a big part in that even if they failed to score a single point off them. Take away those turnovers and this is quite likely a different game .

Screen play's keep the Outside LB's honest as well as the safety . or any running play to the outside for that matter . The DE and OLB are generaly responsible for outside contain on plays of that nature .

The use of the TE across the middle or on post patterns is the responsibility of the ILB and or Safery depending on the coverage package . A steady diet of the TE across the middle forces the Safety / ILB to be just as concerned with the pass as the run and relieves some of the pressure on the outside recievers when the safety cant play over the top .

Once again let me state ... NO I DONT WANNA SEE DC DROP BACK AND FIRE AWAY 45 TIMES A GAME ...... he'd be beat up like Drew Bledsoe physically as well as mentally


Run the ball , do it well , control the clock , pass the ball effeciently , win some games . pretty simple concept
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Yes we do need better running....which team doesn't. It just hasn't been very effective and when that happens you need to ditch it or do it less cause it's just hindering you from sustaining drives and taking time off the clock, thus losing games.

I never thought it was Palmer's fault as too why we played so conservative. I've always blamed that on Capers. As an Offensive Coordinator I'd think that Palmer thoughout every game, hell...every OC, licks his chops to get some big plays in but since Capers is the main man and calls for the conservative game Palmers' hands are tied.

I think Capers has opened his eyes every since that Vikings game when the Texans had to pull together and string in a mass load of passing plays to get back in the game to score some points and have a chance. Capers had no choice and for that I'm greatful that the Texans were behind by such a huge margin against the most productive offense in the league cause now he can feel confident about his team's passing potential. I too hope though that they don't abandon the run as it's crucial to the team's success in not being a one dimensional team and being predictable as we were heading into this season as a rushing offense more than not. Hopefully the running game will come together sooner than not, I believe it will.
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