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Old 10-11-2004   #1
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Babin today had himself a break through game...


Anyone have thoughts on himand his performence today?
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The guy is definitely showing why Capers moved up and how valued he is in the Texans' mind. He has speed, quickness, and power. I am excited to see how he develops.
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its nice to see that both of our Rookies are starting to make good contributions. lets just pray that they both continue to evolve.. and neither of them turn out to have some game breaking weakness.

Would suck if Babin became an awesome pass rusher who never learned how to cover.. or if Robinson continued to get fooled by WRs.

but at this point.. both are looking like they are gonna be cornerstones of our defense in the future. I cant wait to see what we pick up in next years draft. If our next picks turn out as good as Robinson and Babin seem to be.. I can see why the 5 year plan is very possible.
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Babin played well but I would not consider this game his breakout game just yet. As long as he stays healthy, keeps improving his footwork and aggressiveness hopefully soon. Dunta arrived last week and continued to shine, clearly the best player the Texans have on the defensive side already. The question now is how the other picks develop over the next couple of years, you can clearly see the drop-off in talent after the 1st round which does validate the Texans trading up for Babin.
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Dunta arrived last week and continued to shine, clearly the best player the Texans have on the defensive side already.
Not quite, but he's doing well.
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Four tackles is not a break out game for a line backer. And if you watch his play, you would see him falling on the ground almost every play. He did have one sack, but that was beating the tight end. if you also noticed, everyone has been accussing Peek of not being able to contain plays, Babin multiple times over pursed from the left to the right or by going way too deep in the pocket allowing Dante to run right past him to make plays, and even their running backs. Babin has not shown any footwork or pass rushing moves to get to the QB, every play is an attempted bull rush through his blocker, and obviously that only worked on a tight end who isnt bigger than him. And say what you want about Peek but noticed when he was in, 3-10 in the 4th, and 2 and 3rd in overtime when they were not sure passing downs. and i believe in the first two plays he closed to pocket forcing cullpepper to step up into robaire smith who sacked him and the second play he also shrunk the pocket making dante get rid of it early. And it is also difficult to say Peek cant play against the run when his senior year he led his team with over 100 tackles as a defensive end.
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peek flat out needs more field time. babin is improving, but he also does a lot of stupid things too. i swear he ends up on the turf 40% of his snaps, which doesn't benefit at all on defense. 3 snaps on defense is not enough for a player that started 4 games last year and did rather well during those games.
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peek flat out needs more field time. babin is improving, but he also does a lot of stupid things too. i swear he ends up on the turf 40% of his snaps, which doesn't benefit at all on defense. 3 snaps on defense is not enough for a player that started 4 games last year and did rather well during those games.
I thought Babin had a good day yesterday. I saw him bite (big time) on a bootleg, but other than that he did good. I didn't see him on the turf "40% of his snaps". He got a sack and almost popped the ball out of Culpepper's hands. There were also a couple of occasions where he blew up the RT back into the pocket. Babin had a decent day.

Did Gary Walker forget how to tackle? There were times yesterday when the D's ability to tackle was laughable, and times where Sharper and Foreman looked like headhunters. But what was Sharper doing covering Marcus Robinson on that TD in overtime? I wonder if he was supposed to be on him, or if it was a bust in coverage and he was trying to save a TD.
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how could you not see him on the turf? maybe it was because his o-lineman was on top of him. and he bit bigger tahn life on the bootleg, but also on run plays where the running back cut from his left to right babin ended up on the other side of the field from where he starts? that is not contain. and when it was a crucial pass rush inthe end peek was in, and i would say that it was crucial pass rush time the whole game since they threw for like 400 yards. and have you ever noticed how much the fans like it when peek is in? seems like giving the game ball to the fans last week means that the crowd has a say in the outcome, and if peek has a say inthe crowd, you do the math.
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have you ever noticed how much the fans like it when peek is in? seems like giving the game ball to the fans last week means that the crowd has a say in the outcome, and if peek has a say inthe crowd, you do the math.
Peek has been terrible as an every down OLB. He takes bad angles and teams isolate him and expose the edge when he plays. Right now he is a situational pass rusher only.

Babin had a fine game yesterday, and sure, he will be on the ground from time to time, like everyone else. He is making our decision to move up to snag him look like a better and better move each week.
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and have you ever noticed how much the fans like it when peek is in? seems like giving the game ball to the fans last week means that the crowd has a say in the outcome, and if peek has a say inthe crowd, you do the math.
That is just a silly statement. Implying that the fans will only get loud when Peek is in there is absurd.

Peek gets sealed faster than a zip lock bag against the run, he's horrible at fighting off blocks to make a tackle, or even keep contain to force the runner inside to one of the LB's. Babin has 2 sacks so far, and he's played well against the run for a rook making a tough transition. Peek, on the other hand, hasn't proven much against the run in his second year.

There were times yester day when we did get pressure on Culpepper with just a 4 man rush (with Babin in). But Culpepper is one of the best QB's in the league and one tough mofo to bring down.
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HUGE props to Babin on his first great game. If Dunta would have had as big a game we would have come away with a W. But don't fret, we played as good a team as we've ever played and took them to overtime. I think this Texans team can AT LEAST make .500.
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