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Old 10-09-2004   #1
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Texas needs a quarterback. Vince Young is an athlete playing quarterback. NFL scouts project him as a receiver at the next level. He can't throw. He has no pocket presence. He's fast but doesn't run hard enough to be a running QB. Texas is thin at receiver anyway. They need to move Young outside and put Mock under center.
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He has exactly the same body type as Roy Williams. Tall, all legs and lanky.

Too bad Roy isn't there anymore. Texas doesn't even try throwing to the receivers. Their game plan sucks.
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Vince Young = Kordell Stewart
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Well he's a young guy and I think with some good coaching he could be very good. He has a goofy throwing motion though and it looks like he hasn't progressed at all from last year. Bad coaching I think.
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NFL scouts project him as a receiver at the next level.
Actually, I see him as a Wing Back or maybe blocking back in the Single Wing.
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i said the same thing before the season and was ripped, particularly by tenxansfan88, where are you now. i give him another year and when spurrier gets their i think his passing game will improve and maybe turn into a real qb.
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I think all he needs is a little time to grow, and some receivers. He has great arm strength but needs to work on accuracy, thats all. Wait till his senoir year he could be a stud and a top pick.
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nah...with all respect to the texas longhorn organization young is not a QB...he could be one of the best option QB's in ncaa history but mack brown doesn't run the option...give this kid to frank solich and this team is a in the nation title game...texas needs to realize this move him to reciever now...and put chance mock in at QB...he has the arm to make UT a two threat offensive team
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There are true freshmen and true sophomores all across the country that are exhibiting a ton more accuracy than Young right now. And they're not throwing to future first round WRs either.

If you bounce the ball 4 feet in front of your target, it doesn't matter who the target is...he's not going to catch it.

Sad thing is, Greg Davis has apparently been working on his mechanics. But if you pull up video clips from Young when he was in high school, his mechanics were actually better then.

Only way he's able to correct this is if Texas hires away Norm Chow from USC and makes him their head coach. Under Mack Brown and Greg Davis however, Young will fall in a long line of underdeveloped talent.
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I've said it for two years now. You can't take a QB who has had great success running the football and turn him into a great or very good passing QB. If you do, you lose their ability to run as well as they used to. Young will not be a top QB and will not develop under Mack Brown. He might be able to develop in the NFL but I don't think so. Don't get me wrong- Vince Young is one of the greatest athletes I've seen on the college level and has fantastic abilities, but he isn't a QB. His mind set and instincts aren't that of a passing QB.
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Reggie McNeal > Vince Young said it all along and UT fans ripped me apart for it. Lets just say theyve started to quite down. He beat OU as a true freshman and Young hasnt been able to do it as a Fr. or So..
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Reggie McNeal > Vince Young said it all along and UT fans ripped me apart for it. Lets just say theyve started to quite down. He beat OU as a true freshman and Young hasnt been able to do it as a Fr. or So..
Reggie McNeil is a QB who is a great athlete, not a great athlete who is trying to play QB. IMO, McNeil will play in the NFL. I will listen to the bad coaching some, but Young does not appear to have a great deal of skill and instinct as a passer.

I think I trust the QB at ARkansas, same tall body type with very good speed (help me with name someone), more throwing the ball more than vince Young.
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Bowden has lost to Miami for the last 5 games...should he be fired? Mack Brown has UT in the top 10-15 every year. He just hasn't been able to beat OU. I'm not sure you fire a coach for not being able to beat one team when he has the team having a great season year in and year out...but I htink there is a better coach out there for UT.
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Bowden has lost to Miami for the last 5 games...should he be fired? Mack Brown has UT in the top 10-15 every year. He just hasn't been able to beat OU. I'm not sure you fire a coach for not being able to beat one team when he has the team having a great season year in and year out...but I htink there is a better coach out there for UT.
One who knows what an option is... Im not bashing Vince Young Im just saying thats the style of offense that needs to be run with him in there. I think we all agree his arm and decision making arent up to par so they need to exploit his greatest stregnth, his legs.
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actually that is not true...Mack Brown has beaten OU while at Texas (that being said....I am NOT a Greg Davis fan...and I definitely think some changes need to be made)
my bad, i wasn't sure on how long he had been their
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Mack Brown is 2-5 against OU. He is 1-5 against Stoops. In 1999, the Horns were down 16-0 or 17-0 then ripped off 40-something unanswered points. We won convincingly. That was Brown's only win head-to-head against Stoops. He hasn't won again since.
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Ok..I couldn't help myself...I thought this was cute. I actually don't think Greg Davis lost the game last weekend....(i think that is the first time I have ever said that).....anyway...I just learned how to post pics and thought this was funny!

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