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Old 09-26-2004   #1
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Default Babin & Peek

If we want to get any pressure on the quarterback, we need to start Peek. You saw what he did towards the end of the game (make plays!) and that's what the defense needs right now.

Babin is just not good enough to start right now. He doesn't know how to rush the passer in the NFL at this point. Maybe he'll learn in the future, but in the interim, we need a playmacker now.

Peek should be the starter from this point on.
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You do realize that we didn't blitz as much when Babin was in the game, right? Peek played good and he had 2 sacks, but no one even blocked him when he was blitzing.

I could have made his first sack. The Olinemen responsible for blocking him turned inside and let him go. The second sack we had 3 guys in front of Green. I still think Peek plays too wrecklessly at times, but if it fires up our D then I'm all for starting him.
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It is clear that Babin's speed is side to side....his rush has not been all that good in the first 3 games, although much has been said how good he is...average at best, but he is young.

Time for him to sit and learn, we need as much speed as possible, especially with the D-Line getting man-handled every week.

Next draft should be all O-Line and D-Line....it all starts in the trenches.
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I still think Peek plays too wrecklessly at times, but if it fires up our D then I'm all for starting him.
You shmacked the Nail on the Head. This mediocre, coma inducing defense needs a Peek at playing with intensity.
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Default You're right..

I agree with you trogdor, those sacks were easy, but Peek is quicker than Babin and I'll take Peek's "wrecklesness" if it sparks the defense.

He's in the right place at the right time. I'll take that all day.
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When Babin was in the Texans only brought 3 and dropped 8 into coverage. Peek came in at the end of the game when we knew they were passing and we needed pressure and get the ball back...
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Peek brings what this defense needs, fire! Although his pass coverage and rush defense may be suspect at times, this guy has the havoc that causes matchup problems for slow tackles. This team took on a whole new look when he was in the game and the defense exploded back in the game with big plays! PEEK A BOO, I SEE YOU!!! Way to go Peek!
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Babin at times today got dominated on pass plays and rushing the qb. I saw him get thrown to the ground and Tony Gonzalez brushed him off a couple of times. Peek made the plays when he was given the opportunity and that's what it comes down to. Babin will improve and he went up against the best o-line in the league, but he'll be ok. Peek at times looks like he's about to loose it, but his pass rushing skills right now are what we need.
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I love that about Peek as well - that fire, that thirst for blood. I love seeing a player gunning the backfield. And at this point, I'd rather see someone overpursue than be too cautious.
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Peek and Babin are to different type of players. Babin is a high motor effort with mutliple moves guy. Peek is a speed rusher. Wong is probably the odd man out over time. Honestly, I have thought the Peek would become situational for Wong as a pass rusher at sometime this year. Babin and wong are more similiar with Babin probably having more long term potential.
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i actuallylike what peek can do comin off the sideline but i spose it would be interesting to see what a fulltime spot in the LB corps for him would bring but i still think startin babin is the way to go.
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Its easy, you start Babin, you can bring in Peek for some obvious passing downs, he gets around 15-20 plays in the game, if he does well with it he can get more time or around that each game.
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I believe the reason why Peek isn't starting already is NOT because of ablity to put pressure on the QB. His run defense and pass coverage are what's suspect.
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Well, I'm not a person who likes to change things too much, but when you find something that works for you, you've got to make changes. I'm not for Peek totally taking Babin's place, but on 3rd downs and passing situations, let's put Peek in there!
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Does anyone else on the forum think Peek should get the start sunday?I know we have alot vested in Babin,but Peek seems to be a step or two faster then Babin..Its all about QB pressure,and I think we have a better shot with Peek out there.Oakland has a massive line....speed kills If a thread of this nature has already been started,I apologize
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Does anyone else on the forum think Peek should get the start sunday?I know we have alot vested in Babin,but Peek seems to be a step or two faster then Babin..Its all about QB pressure,and I think we have a better shot with Peek out there.Oakland has a massive line....speed kills If a thread of this nature has already been started,I apologize
It's not all about QB pressure. The reason he hasn't been out there much to this point is because every team in the league knows that any misdirection to his side means a free ride down the sideline. If he becomes a little more disciplined, then I think we will and should see him more on passing downs- though I think Babin has looked pretty good with the exception of the KC game. And, in fairness, they are the best OL in football. Let's not forget, Peek was left unblocked on his sack. It looked to me like KC expected him to get sucked in on the run action and when he didn't, he was free to tee off on TGreen.
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all i'm gonna say is this...you put performance before potential
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all i'm gonna say is this...you put performance before potential
Exactly!

I also want to add that no matter who starts, our D better come to play and make statements all day because we are going to need them to win this game.

Here's hoping for win #2 in a row.
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With the way a lot of you are talking....because of Peeks two plays at the closing of the game and considering him to take over Babin's, Wong's or Foreman's position.........hell, I can't wait to see what you guys say if Banks goes in gets an 85% completions and 2 TDs with about 275 yrds. I can see it now, "Carr doesn't have the rhythm Banks has....Banks has far more experience....they should start Banks and let Carr learn another year on the sidelines!"
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Let's not forget, Peek was left unblocked on his sack. .
I'll bet Babin has seen a few cases of being left unblocked in 3 games as well. How many sacks does he have? A sack is a sack. And with our defense, they are as precious as gold. I don't care how we get them as long as we start getting more or them.
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