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Old 09-14-2004   #1
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So i guess now is a good time as any to start talking about it.

what do you see us targeting in the 2005 draft....
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Old 09-14-2004   #2
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mid teens is where we will be picking.

QB-set
RB-set
OL-possible but you dont draft a guard/center this high
WR-set but a possible if we cant get a decent 3rd via free agency
TE-set

DT-set but depth needs help
DE-set but depth needs help
OLB-set
ILB-maybe not a big need
CB-set
S-set

Our starters are decent on O but on D we can use depth mainly no glaring needs ATM
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I would think DL or secondary is what we need next. 2/3 of our dl and 2/4 of our secondary are hitting the 30 range.

This is of course baring injury and after last week
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mid teens is where we will be picking.

QB-set
RB-set
OL-possible but you dont draft a guard/center this high
WR-set but a possible if we cant get a decent 3rd via free agency
TE-set

DT-set but depth needs help
DE-set but depth needs help
OLB-set
ILB-maybe not a big need
CB-set
S-set

Our starters are decent on O but on D we can use depth mainly no glaring needs ATM
Agree with everything, BUT Safety set, did you watch the San Diego game, we have a journyman strong safety, and a converted corner at Free. Maybe Earl pans out as the strong of the future, but we could use a good free in the draft. Safety and DL are the two areas that I think really need to be addressed this next year.
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I would think we would go D-line next year. It is great when you have depth and quality there because that position wears down faster than any other on the team. The Patriots have spent 1st rounders on that position over the last few years and it has worked.
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CB of Miami (FL) Antrel Rolle.
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CB of Miami (FL) Antrel Rolle.
If we are that high in the draft than absolutley. A perfect replacement for an ageing Aaron Glenn. A year or two in the nickel back spot where he plays very well at to begin with and he will be ready to go a left corner.
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... depending on what the draft holds...

1st round...

Offense, Depending on what happens with Joppru, a top flight Tight end could be used...someone that can both block and catch.

Defensive line. Gary Walker and Seth Payne are no spring chickens and both have had injury concerns... probably is priority number 1.

Linebackers are relatively young and mobile, if Wong can't provide a pass rush another rusher might be taken.

Defensive backs, Another Saftey would be a smart pick, Aaron Glenn isn't getting younger.

2nd Round....

Offensive line here, maybe wide reciever depending on if we keep bradford or replace him with a free agent.



If i had to name a name right now.. Antrelle Rolle... Miami..... Not only have we, and most of the NFL had luck with miami players, but he is brother of a pro-bowl corner Samari Rolle. He will be an impact corner for years. He can spend a year learning under Glenn and play on nickel packages. Then him and Dunta can shut everyone else down.

Second round i'd go with D-lineman Chris Canty from Virginia....

and O line with one of our 2 3rd round picks.

Saftey with our second 3rd rounder...

tight end with our 4th rounder

wide reciever with our 5th round pick...




its more the priority and availability than individual players i can target, and of course someone on our team might and will step up and come from no where like DD did last year (this time last year i was so concerned we would never be able to rush the ball) But at this point, (not really counting the Chargers game) this is what i would be looking towards next year...

I know people are gonna knock me for drafting 2 CBs with 2 consecutive 1st round picks, but what team wouldn't want 2 shut down corners?
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CB of Miami (FL) Antrel Rolle.
Let's wait and see if he's not in prison by the next draft. Felony assault on a law enforcement officer is generally considered to be an easy way to get there.
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I don't know about the TE position, safety spots, and ILB positions being set. They may be set for now but they are upgradeable, which IMO relates to not being "set".

TE: Bruener is good, but he's getting older, and if Joppru ever recovers then we could be set. Note the if in relation to Joppru.

Safety: A young gun for depth and future replacement is needed. I love Eric Brown in run support, but as we saw Sunday, his coverage skills leaves a little to be desired. He will knock the snot out of you, and I absolutely love that about him.

ILB: Foreman is good, but he is upgradeable.
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You dont use a first on a replacement because a guy is old unless you know he wont be with you.

S TE OG C (can argue RB and OLB to)are positions you dont spend mid first round picks on.
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I don't know about the TE position, safety spots, and ILB positions being set. They may be set for now but they are upgradeable, which IMO relates to not being "set".

TE: Bruener is good, but he's getting older, and if Joppru ever recovers then we could be set. Note the if in relation to Joppru.

Safety: A young gun for depth and future replacement is needed. I love Eric Brown in run support, but as we saw Sunday, his coverage skills leaves a little to be desired. He will knock the snot out of you, and I absolutely love that about him.

ILB: Foreman is good, but he is upgradeable.
Agreed, I also think that NT has got to be at least a first-day consideration given the question marks that remain about Seth Payne's health (isn't he also going to be a UFA?). Even if he does return to full strength, it would be nice to have a guy like Anttaj Hawthorne to develop behind him as the eventual replacement. I think NT might be the most critical position in 34, especially if you buy into the theory that games are won and lost in the trenches.

I have to say I really do like the team Casserly and crew are putting together, but I just can't see them not trying to get some young depth for the d-line, either through free agency or the draft. Just my
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I would think we would go D-line next year. It is great when you have depth and quality there because that position wears down faster than any other on the team. The Patriots have spent 1st rounders on that position over the last few years and it has worked.
I would think we would be looking for future secondary starters rather than D line depth. We have Smith, Walker, Payne front 3. We have Sears, DeLoach, and Ioane backing them up. We have Robinson and Glenn on the corners, and Coleman and Brown at safety spots. Walker and Smith just signed contracts and our backups on the D line got a lot of experience last year when the starters went down. Coleman is in his last year of his contract, Glenn is not getting any younger, and Brown is looking pretty bad.
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DEFENSE BaBY!!!! We need LINEBACKERS and D LINEMEN!!!! Also Safety. We got by in our first year because no one took us seriously. But we need to make changes. We have too many injuries on the D-LINE. We need to get people to come in to challenge those guys to eventually take their spots.

We have to see what Carr does if he sucks we draft a QB. I think we need a DT to be there if Payne goes down again and again because who ever hears DeLoach being called for a sack...ha ha!!!!! u don't. We do need LBs as well. Our RBs are straight, our

If Kris Brown keeps throwing his body around we may need to look for a kicker soon.
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These are 4 guys I follow because I love UM and UT

Just get a guy from Miami and everything will turn out okay...
Rolle (D-Rob and Rolle???) or Everett (unless Jappru proves something this year)
Or get a University of Texas guy
Derrick Johnson (I dont want to be picking that high, though) or Rodrique Wright (he is 6-5, 315 pounds!!!!)...
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QB - depends on what they do with Banks. Word has it they are concerned about Ragone, which is why they drafted Symons. Do not think Ragone is ready for 2nd string, but I would put my money on Symons. Super quick release, great reads and tough as nails. You cannot appreciate how good he is to you actually see him. And...he has no lack of confidence and is super smart. Watched him from Cy Creek all the way through college.
DL- need a marquee player or two here.
Secondary - still feel there are a few holes to fill
OL- late picks possible, but it looks like we are progressing
RB - you can never have too many good running backs
ST - I love JJ but he does not have the breakawy speed and does not contribute on the receiving side. Welker for SD was a steal as a FA. The guy can play and is a good receiver like Grebet for the Jets.

Just my opinion!
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I suppose we could bundle up a few of our picks including a second round pick and trade up a few spots in the draft to select someone who we could have gotten anyway had we just waited until our pick in the second round. Oh wait, we did that already.
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There are 2 and only 2 things we need to pick up early in the draft. We need a(some) good pass rusher(s).I might be disagreed by this but we should get another intimidating wr so he or other receivers can open for once in a century.In the 3rd and 4th round we need to get an oline.
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