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Old 09-12-2004   #1
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Angry Turnovers . . . Turnovers . . . Turnovers

That's all you're going to hear Dom Caoers talk about. And that's all he should be talking about.

It doesn't matter how good Davis ran the ball, how good Carr threw, or how good Babin played. If you lose the turnover battle, that's it.
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Domanick Davis should be very pleased with the way he's running, but he can't be a star in this league if he's going to cough up the ball twice against the freaking Chargers.

I think this was an aberration, but if not, this will be a very long season.
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This love affair with DD better stop this week. You cant fumble, especially at the end of the game when you are trailing. Hollings was ripped when he fumbled twice in a PRESEASON game, DD better get more critisim then Hollings did.
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Hey, everybody has a bad day. Let's just hope that this will be the only bad day from the AFC rookie of the year. I really don't think this is going to be a problem with D.D.
The offense looked good. The defense was o.k. Comparing the team today with the team two years ago? Give me todays team.

This is just week 1. After week 7, if we're 1-6, then let's worry.
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Somebody said something about needing to put Domanick on the bench??? That is a very bad idea. What the Texans need to do is keep getting the ball into the hands of Davis. He will be just fine.
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Turnovers aside, the difference in the game was the excellent pass rush by the Chargers and the absolute opposite from the Texans. They were hurrying David all day long, whereas Breezy had all day to pick a receiver who usually turned out to be a TE named named Gates (124 yds). UUGGLY!
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Hey, everybody has a bad day.
You guys didnt have this attitude towards Hollings after his 2 fumble performance against the Cowboys. Some of you guys said something around the lines of "Hollings better learn how to hold onto the ball or he wont be on a team" and "Hollings will find himself on the bench if he continues to fumble."

Why does DD get a pass???

New season, you have to forget what a player did last season. Jamal Lewis only got 17% of what he got last year in his first meeting with the Brwons. New season, new circumstances, new oppenents, new slate...
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Come on Fiddy, do you think the Ravens will "forget" what Jamal Lewis did for them last year? Of course it helps when you're running behind a guy like Jonathan Ogden. What a big difference he makes.

Davis won't get a free pass from the coaching staff. But, he'll get the opportunity to correct his mistakes because he has performed in the past. I would like to have seen Hollings get more than 4 touches (the "Jarrod Baxter Drive" puzzled me), but there weren't a lot of touches to go around in the 2nd half. The Texans ran only 9 plays from scrimmage in the 4th quarter. Trust me that be it through injury or performance, Hollings will get his chance at some point this season.
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This love affair with DD better stop this week. You cant fumble, especially at the end of the game when you are trailing. Hollings was ripped when he fumbled twice in a PRESEASON game, DD better get more critisim then Hollings did.
I was one of those who criticized Hollings in the preseason for his two fumbles. I'm critical of Davis as well, he had a bad game. When you put the ball on the ground twice, once in a game-deciding situation, you had a bad game. On the other hand I don't want to see DD benched after one bad performance. He has more leeway than Hollings. When you average roughly 2 YPC you damn well better not fumble, otherwise we may as well just pound the ball with a fullback. Davis needs to get this fixed for next week, but despite the fumbles he is definitely what the doctor ordered for the Texans running game.
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Focus....

Perspective... we are a 3rd year franchise that started 0-1.

change nothing, just work on the mistakes...

DD doesn't fumble and we are still in the game...

1 of Carr's INTs at the end of the half didn't have an effect on the game, minus us getting in range to attempt a field goal.

The second was a bit of luck with the ball bouncing off the helmet. He threw a great game and was around 70%.

Davis had over 140 total yds and 2 TDs

and we came out of the game with no injuries (although Kris Brown sure scared me)



The only thing i would like to see is Carr air it out a couple of times.... see if we can find AJ deep. or Bradford who is in a contract year so he is gonna be working hard.
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We need to cut DD some slack. Sure he messed up as well as others. You don't bench him. He's hurting more than anyone. There's enough blame to go around. What about our franchise QB? He knows he has to do a better job next Sunday in Detroit. He was out QB'd by a so-so QB...zero TD passes and 2 pix. Texans Defense needs to step up...I didn't see any serious blitzing. Cool Breeze had all afternoon to throw. Babin looked very good for a rook. Capers is chewing on them this morning. We need to get over this, correct our mistakes, and go after the Lions.
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small backs sometimes put it on the ground. The worse news is that the texans got toasted threw the air by a guy who wont be starting in several weeks
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Just a bad day. Previously it was something like 230+ carries per fumble.
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Lets hope next week works out better...
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i think we should start tony next week to show domanick how serious those two fumbles were they prety much lost us the game
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Interesting point. What happened to Stacey Mack after he fumbled twice? An NFL Rookie of the Year was born.
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I hate TURNOVERS......Turnovers ....Turnover.....Turnovers!
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Interesting point. What happened to Stacey Mack after he fumbled twice? An NFL Rookie of the Year was born.
I cant say he will be benched but they should be running some serious wind sprints monday lol
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The turnovers killed us. That was unexpected. We need to nip that in the bud.

I'm more concerned about our lack of a pass-rush. Babin was nice against the run but where was he on passing downs? We have a rookie cornerback that will get lit up if we don't locate a player who can actually get to the QB.

Robinson was tooled in this game but isn't that to be expected of a rookie CB? I still point to next season as our breakout year.
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i think we should start tony next week to show domanick how serious those two fumbles were they prety much lost us the game
I don't know if that's such a good idea. The team's a completely different animal when Davis is in. Tony seems to lack the ability to create anything during the play. No cutbacks and no slipping through little cracks that don't even look like they're there. It's probably just the difference between someone who's been a running back for a long time and another guy who's spent too little time at the position but Davis is our best back. That's very obvious.

I think it was an abberation and Capers will get it ironed out this week.
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