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Old 09-07-2004   #1
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Default 2002 D vs 2004 D

How does everyone think the 2004 version of the defense stacks up against our 2002 version?

We have significant changes to all three levels of the D:
Robaire added to the DL
Babin taking that OLB spot that's always been in question
Coleman moving to FS
Robinson takes over MC's old RCB position.

*** An entire season WITHOUT Matt Stevens in the secondary ***

Payne is still a ? mark for now until he's at full strength to really compare the two versions.

The 2002 D wasn't anything to laugh at, the question is what are people's expectations this year? Overall the unit seems upgraded all around but there will definitely be some growing pains with the two rookies starting.

Anyway...have at it
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On paper it looks like an improvement, but... The dline gets beat up in 3-4 & I am not convinced Payne and Walker will be around for 16 games. Coleman seems to be doing OK & will be improvement but it is a new position. I would play Eric Brown mid range to support Robinson and stop a dink type pass when outside backer rushes QB. Shade Coleman closer to Dunte side of field as Glenn should handle his side.

The big key to this defense is linebackers. I still seen no reason to think we will get more than 3 from Peek or Babin. Boy, I hope I am wrong! Keep in mind that in 2002 a lot of teams underestimated H town and I do not think that will happen this season.
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Default Edge to 2002

I think we will be close to 2002, but I don't think we can stay as heathly as we were that year. Payne and Walker 2 years older and coming off injuries + 2 rookies outweigh even the play of Stevens (believe or not). Next Year we will be a lot better. This year we will be way above 2003 though.
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Matt Stevens is gone so that is a HUGE imporvement.
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One advantage the 2004 defense has is two years of experience in the system. Few of the players in 2002 had any experience playing the 3-4 defense but now most of them have been here for two years.

Anothter advantage the 2004 defense has is the 2004 offense. The offense should be able to move the ball and score more points, taking pressure off the defense to shut out the opposing team and giving the defense more time to rest between series.

Also, the 2004 version has depth. Deloach has started 32 games. Sears started most of last year. Ioane started a few games. Those are the backups for the D-line. Peek has a year of experience on the outside, and Wong is ready to move inside if Sharper or Foreman go down. McCree started last year, and now he is backing up both safety spots. Faggins and Wright are backing up the CB spots.

The only disadvantage I see is the injury factor. The 2002 defense was extremely fortunate in only having one starter miss one game (Eric Brown). If Walker and Payne can stay healthy this defense will definitely end up being better because of the above reasons.
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I don't think the 2002 defense was as good as generally believed. The fact that they stayed healthy and the starters helped mask their shortcomings.

My proposition is that teams didn't challenge the Texans 2002 defense as much as other teams, because of the inadequate Texans' offense. For example, in a third and short situation, teams could try to run for the first down (not risky). If they didn't get a first down, it helped the Texans' defensive statistics, but it didn't hurt the opposing team. Not infrequently, the Texans' offense would go three and out, might even lose yards and give the ball back anyway. Why take a change and press the Texans' 2002 defense?

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