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Old 05-07-2004   #1
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Anyone else tired of CP calling run on 3rd and 23?

Or not knowing that there is this awesome new invention that applies to the NFL called the "screen pass"?

I think will be CP's last year if he proves to be the bonehead play caller he has been for the last two years.

We had four games which we lost by the smallest of margins last year, and I cant help but think that poor play calling had much to do with us being in that predicament to begin with. These games shouldn’t have even been that close.

CP better get his act together ... or pack his bags.
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Frankly, I think we used too many screens in the first two years.

Also, I don't have a problem with conservative play calling. I think that is more a reflection of Capers than Palmer. Capers has been running conservative offenses everywhere he has been in charge of a team. Palmer ran a wide open set with the Jaguars, so he has more history of running a "wide open" offense between the two. Also, we had one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year. You don't run "wide open" sets with a horrible D. That tends to get you blown out more often.

We lost 4 games last year by small margins because our offense could not convert simple, short first downs. It was excecution more than playcalling.

Palmer is not in any hot water. His bags are fine how they are.

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I think he will actually get to open it up more this season. You have a QB that is in his 3rd year, and alot less rookies if any on offense. My thing is I would like to see us have the ability to expose weaknesses in the oppositions defense. I want to see a well prepared offense each week.
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At first glance, 3rd and 23 seems an obvious passing down. It's obvious to defenses too. You could almost count on one hand the number of varied offensive plays we ran in the first year. It opened up a bit more last year and I fully expect the guys to get near the back of the book this time around.
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i don't think he's in hot water with casserly or mcnair at all...but i personally would like him to open up the playbook for some more deep passes...especially now that we have a runningback...man let's pull a manning fake the hand off and go deep with johnson or bradford...if carr is going to him and asking the same thing then you know we're ready for it
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Palmer is not in hot water. But I THINK (like I know anything) if the play calling isn't a little more open this year, the water could start to heat up. Just because I heard somewhere back when, that McNair is ready to start moving up and start contending for the playoffs.
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Can't we wait for the season to start first before we start to flame Palmer? Settle down.
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At the very beginning of the season the deep ball was working over the middle to Gaffney. The deep ball was there to Johnson alot this year but sometimes it would be negated by a holding penalty or a false start on the next play.
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Is it time to fire Palmer already? Do you guys suppose we could all wait til week 2? I am just playing, but this thread is a little premature.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it stated by CPalmer in these past 2 seasons that the offense the 1st year was running on about 25% of the playbook & going up to 50-60% last year? In essence I'm saying they're only gonna eat what you feed'em. I expect that our play calling will be even more vast this season because CPalmer will feed them more of the playbook. IMO, another way the O will improve is contingent on DCarr/CPalmer mixing it up & not just settling on what a D gives them ... not riding the screen pass til the wheels fall off. Just my miserable worth ... Can't get enough of that dancin' or
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I hope they give Carr more freedom to change plays at the line of scrimmage, and to take advantage of Gaff in the slot and AJ deep
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