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Old 08-21-2004   #1
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With the score 31-3, why did the Texans coaches keep Hollings in the game. Our number one running back is out with what is kind of a mysterious injury. Why would they leave our potential #1 back in for so long. He got his clock rung a few plays before they finally took him out. It was a short pass play with two defensive players converging. Don't remember if it was Banks or Ragone, but whichever, a pass that should have never been thrown into that kind of coverage

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Not much else to go to as far as RB's. Agree it was an incorrect call, and it was Ragone.
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If he's healthy enough to play, he needs to play. The Texans still don't know what they have with Hollings. He needs as much time on the field as anybody. If he gets hurt, better it be in the pre-season so you have time to fill the vacancy before the season starts.
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He had to! The other guys that were available have been here for less than a week. You just don't throw them in there having no clue who to block.

Davis, Wells, Anderson....all hurt.
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I don't know if I am in the minority, but Hollings sure seems unimpressive. If he's not fumbling, he is running straight ahead and leaning on D-linemen. He looks like as faster Wells.
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I don't know if I am in the minority, but Hollings sure seems unimpressive. If he's not fumbling, he is running straight ahead and leaning on D-linemen. He looks like as faster Wells.
For the last time. THERE WERE NO HOLES FOR HIM TO RUN THROUGH!!!! They just showed a couple of running plays on ABC 13. No Holes...
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Boxscore was so observent he can't even spell the man's name right. Am I supposed to take critism seriousely when he can't spell the man's name right after a year and a half. :hehe:
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so you're saying that there's NEVER been any holes for him? against a 3rd string defense? C'mon!
4 Games total as a RB before getting hurt in college. Uconn, Vandy, Kentucky and one other Syracuse I think is his only RB experience. We're paying this guy a lot of money to LEARN how to do his job. More that DD. There are plenty of wavier wire backs better than Hollings for half the price.
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If he's healthy enough to play, he needs to play. The Texans still don't know what they have with Hollings. He needs as much time on the field as anybody. If he gets hurt, better it be in the pre-season so you have time to fill the vacancy before the season starts.
Fill the vacancy with what??? If there were any good running backs floating around the Dophins would not be relying on Travis Minor going into the season. Look at what we signed this week: a furniture saleman and a guy from the dakotas.


Late in 3rd or early in the 4th Hollings is not providing anything. Bad move by Capers.
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Fill the vacancy with what??? If there were good running back floating around the Dophins would no be relying on Travis Minor going into the season.

Late in 3rd or early in the 4th Hollings is not providing anything. Bad move my Capers.
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Fill the vacancy with what??? If there were any good running backs floating around the Dophins would not be relying on Travis Minor going into the season. Look at what we signed this week: a furniture saleman and a guy from the dakotas.


Late in 3rd or early in the 4th Hollings is not providing anything. Bad move my Capers.
Free agent, make a trade, doesn't matter. I'm not talking about finding somebody that can start...they already have that.

And again, you don't know what you have with Hollings yet. What's the point of saving him for the season if he's not good enough to be the back-up in the first place. And there's only one way you're going to find that out.
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Free agent, make a trade, doesn't matter. I'm not talking about finding somebody that can start...they already have that. . .
The Texans arent going to give Davis 20+ carries a game. They have already stated that. They said that Hollings will get 10-15 carries a game and Davis will get around 15 carries a game so that means the Texans have already seen something in Hollings to state that he would carry half the load so there was no reason to play him....
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Hmm, the way you describe it it sounds like you're saying DD and Hollings will split carries. The way I understood it was Davis will get more along the lines of 20 carries to Hollings 10. Davis is clearly the starter in my eyes, whereas Hollings is more of the "spell Davis for a play and get back on the bench until trash time" back this season.
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Boxscore was so observent he can't even spell the man's name right. Am I supposed to take critism seriousely when he can't spell the man's name right after a year and a half.

Porky, I have always respected your comments. For the record, I corrected a one-character mistake. What makes you the Holy Roller of etiquette! All I am posting is a concern for the well being of our team and you are being like a little old lady teacher correcting grammar.

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Boxscore was so observent he can't even spell the man's name right. Am I supposed to take critism seriousely when he can't spell the man's name right after a year and a half.
By the way Porky the correct spelling of what you mispelled is Criticism

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The Texans arent going to give Davis 20+ carries a game. They have already stated that. They said that Hollings will get 10-15 carries a game and Davis will get around 15 carries a game so that means the Texans have already seen something in Hollings to state that he would carry half the load so there was no reason to play him....
If they do that (basically split the carries between Davis and Hollings), then the coaching staff needs to be replaced. But I think there's going to be a difference between what they say and what they do.
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from Fiddy ...so that means the Texans have already seen something in Hollings to state that he would carry half the load so there was no reason to play him....



I disagree. There was a major reason to continue to play him. Who do they put in there? Split time between two guys who just showed up for practice last week? Its very dangerous to do that. I think that they were keeping Hollings in there two fold: 1) further evaluation of Hollings to see if he can endure a 20 carry game - which he did and 2) quite simply there was no other alternative. It was an act of necessity. I believe that the conservative play was engineered to keep Hollings from injury. Not to take it out on the field and just dominate guys.

There is no doubt that the Texans see something in Hollings. We all do. For those of you who are Hollings bashers I really do feel for you. This guy is special and we are lucky to have him on our team.

More so then that I think that Cower wanted to lay it thick this game since we embarrassed him in 02 with only 47 yards in offense. Its ok though - our guys will not go into the season with malaise and puffed ego's. Cower wanted to show that 02 was just a fluke and that by giving us a good drubbing in the pre-season he has somehow undone all of that which has hurt his own sense of respectability. An expansion team beat him. That is a seasoned coaches worst nightmare.

I personally do not like Cower. I think that he is a spineless back stabbing ego-maniac. More so then that, most former players feel the same.

Lastly, is really sucks that Anderson got hurt. I really liked that guy.

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I don't know if I am in the minority, but Hollings sure seems unimpressive. If he's not fumbling, he is running straight ahead and leaning on D-linemen. He looks like as faster Wells.
I have not been very impressed with him, even last week, when he had holes. Perhaps it's a personal preference, but I'd rather have a back that has great field vision, hits the holes with authority, breaks tackles, has a low center of gravity, and is shifty and deceptive. Add in toughness and durability, and you've got a HOF-er, and Emmitt-type back. I may be in the minority, though, because a lot of folks seem to want that burner that can hit the outside and take it to the house. That's all well and good, but I prefer the former. They almost never are the same, unfortunately.

I don't see Hollings as having too many of those qualities, and I really don't see the vaunted speed. Honestly, I don't think he's really that much faster than Wells. I have no clue what their 40-yd. times were, so I am probably off-base, but it seems that Wells has as much game speed as Hollings, at least from what I've seen in practice and in the Dallas game. Hollings still has a lot to prove, IMO.
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Where's all the Mack love that everybody had last year? Is he signed anywhere?
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Everyone can say what they want about Hollings, but the fact is the players have confidence in DD and not Hollings. Hollings has yet to earn their respect. He has to show what he can do in a real game and until that time, he will simply be 2nd string. The line changes are not because of Hollings abilities to run the ball. They are designed to take advantage of DD's skills.
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Everyone can say what they want about Hollings, but the fact is the players have confidence in DD and not Hollings. Hollings has yet to earn their respect. He has to show what he can do in a real game and until that time, he will simply be 2nd string. The line changes are not because of Hollings abilities to run the ball. They are designed to take advantage of DD's skills.
Have you been in the locker room, because how do you know the players dont have confidence in Hollings???

The line changes werent made particuarly for DD, they made the line changes because the best rushing teams in the league use zone blocking and he takes cares of defensive line stunts for the passing game. It just happened that DD best attributes are used for running in a zone blocking scheme...
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