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Old 08-21-2004   #1
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He calls 2 running plays which don't work, so in 3rd and loooong (which anyone knows is a passing down)..he throws. I mean if he is no smarter than that maybe we need to let David call his own plays, you can't keep calling conservative football take some chances Palmer or let QB call his game we might lose but we sure won't lose games like we have trying to play it SAFE...he did that last week instead of going for end zone when we had ball on 6 he called running plays......I know I saw several times last season where Carr would come off field and talk on phone and then in frustration throw it down...
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It's the PRESEASON.
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Excatly, there was no game plan for this game. Calm down...
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who cares its preseason. hes not trying to confuse anyone, he's evaluating players.
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Yep, it's preseason but it looks as if some are already in mid-season form.
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Ummm... maybe it's to see what Hollings and our O-line can do on a run play? Noticed there were no issues on the Dallas game. Welcome to preseason.

Dump i d i o t ic posts NOW!!!! (Gotta put the spaces in to get a point across.)
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No kidding dude! Remind me of the games last season when we go 3rd and out for 3 series in a row and in 9 plays we don't attemp a pass > than 10 yards.


Palmer bashing is also in mis season form also. Who can blame them though... we seen this thing happen so many times.
Actually it was the Palmer bashers I was referring to.
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He calls 2 running plays which don't work, so in 3rd and loooong (which anyone knows is a passing down)..he throws. I mean if he is no smarter than that maybe we need to let David call his own plays, you can't keep calling conservative football take some chances Palmer or let QB call his game we might lose but we sure won't lose games like we have trying to play it SAFE...he did that last week instead of going for end zone when we had ball on 6 he called running plays......I know I saw several times last season where Carr would come off field and talk on phone and then in frustration throw it down...
Ummmm... I don't get it. So if your first 2 running plays get stopped cold, you want him to run the ball again on 3rd and long? And as for last week, our running plays would have gotten us the TD if not for stupid penalties and fumbles. Plus, this is an evaluation period. No one is going to go deep into their playbook in the preseason. All he wants to see is if we can run the ball consistently and if we can throw worth a damn. Right now, I'm not really worried about our offense. We've been able to move the ball better than we have ever been able to, and I don't expect our Caper's D to put up such a pathetic display like it did in Pittsburg when the season starts. The Pittsburg game sucked, but I didn't take it too seriously.

The only thing I really worried about was our O-line, which we've been hyping up alot the past few weeks. You would have thought our O-line would be in the top third of the league the way people have been hyping it up lately.

Also, isn't Palmer responsible for bringing up and teaching some of the best QBs in the league? I think we're pretty lucky to have him actually. However, if he plays too conservative like he did last season (which was understandable for a 2nd year team), than I'm going to raise a few eyebrows.
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For the most part, the Palmer playcalling thing is a myth. It's an easy scapegoat for vultures waiting to pick on an unsuccessful drive or 3rd down call. Run run pass has been debunked over and over by people who take the time watch the game closely or present gamebook data following a game. What some people tend to fixate on are plays that are unsucessful (run and pass - although there seems to be a lower tolerance for throwing a low percentage bomb 60 yards downfield than a trap or draw on 3rd and 5 for some reason - I guess it's the Madden generation) and what we never hear about are the plays that are successful (those are expected, of course). Execution has always been more of a problem with this team than play calling.
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I normally don't post in these knee jerk threads for obvious reasons but I feel compelled to do so today for some strange reason.

If you paid attention last year, our defense was shattered with injuries. There were second and third string guys playing in place of the starters. When that happens, the coaches will make an effort to give them a spell...try to limit thier time on the field. This is where the consevative play comes in. Capers had the offense play conservatively to protect the extremely depth deprived defense.

Ball control keeps the defense off the field when properly executed.

AJ is right about the breakdowns. The Texans had a pretty balanced attack last year given the situation they were in. A lot of you guys only pay attention to the negatives. It isn't always the coach that is to blame. The coach doesn't execute the plays.

How come I don't hear a big uproar about the defense this week?

Probably because most of you realize that it was the lack of execution that created such a poor performance not bad game planning.
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