Hollings to Fins? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

cuppacoffee · 07-27-2004

From Profootballtalk.com rumor mill

"Cole also identifies various backs whom the Dolphins might acquire via a trade, including Tony Hollings of the Texans, Najeh "Dookie" Davenport of the Packers, and Lamar Gordon of the Rams. Hollings is the most enticing of this trio; he was the Texans' second-round pick in last year's supplemental draft, and league sources have in the past verified that his ability justifies the lofty draft status. Still, his future in Houston has been clouded by the unlikely emergence of fellow 2003 rookie Domanick Davis. "

Think they want him bad enough for a #1?
Dont they also have a disgruntled DE Ogenleye (sp?)

Possibilities?

Story

flawedout · 07-27-2004

i dont mind trading Mack but not hollings, it would be interesting to deal with them because we would pretty much do what we want with the trade seeing as how they are the team in need

aj. · 07-27-2004

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i dont mind trading Mack...

Kind of hard to trade a player you don't have.

The Texans are counting on Hollings as quality depth behind DD so I don't think they would consider such a deal. Hollings was a high second rounder so it would take "at least" a first rounder to compensate. The way it looks, the Phins may be picking in the upper half of the first round next year. The only reason a Hollings trade is somewhat intriguing to me is because the guy has done nothing in the NFL and his present value is still based solely on potential. The jury is still out on whether he will be a legit NFL RB or not. But, if they do trade Hollings (which I think is unlikely), they would have to turn right around and start looking for a backup RB again.

Beastlyman2003 · 07-27-2004

dude its probably bull, but just for grins why wouldnt we trade a backup running back for a starting DE then we could move Robaire Smith to NT and put Ogunleye at RE and have Gary Walker at LE. Or for a #1 pick? Long shot, but if true you dont even hesitate.

**infantrycak** · 07-27-2004

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Originally Posted by Beastlyman2003

dude its probably bull, but just for grins why wouldnt we trade a backup running back for a starting DE then we could move Robaire Smith to NT and put Ogunleye at RE and have Gary Walker at LE. Or for a #1 pick? Long shot, but if true you dont even hesitate.

Mainly because Ogunleye wouldn't play DE in our system. He is 255lbs, i.e. the size of our OLB's.

Fiddy · 07-27-2004

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Originally Posted by cuppacoffee

"Cole also identifies various backs whom the Dolphins might acquire via a trade, including Tony Hollings of the Texans, Najeh "Dookie" Davenport of the Packers, and Lamar Gordon of the Rams. Hollings is the most enticing of this trio; he was the Texans' second-round pick in last year's supplemental draft, and league sources have in the past verified that his ability justifies the lofty draft status. Still, his future in Houston has been clouded by the unlikely emergence of fellow 2003 rookie Domanick Davis."

The bold part is why Hollings wont be traded, he could challege DD for his starting job next year...

SBTexans08 · 07-27-2004

Ogunleye would def. be an OLB in our system. I say go for it....start negotiations pronto...before training camp starts!! I'd rather have him than any draft picks.

**Vinny** · 07-27-2004

Hollings isn't going anywhere. Frankly I think he is our lead-back of the future.

Fiddy · 07-27-2004

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Originally Posted by __V__

Hollings isn't going anywhere. Frankly I think he is our lead-back of the future.

I do, too. I feel Hollings will challenge Davis by the end of the year for the starting job and he could possibly win it next year...

TheOgre · 07-27-2004

I think it is a possibility too. I am excited about our backfield this year. A lot more so than the past two years.

chicagotexan · 07-27-2004

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Originally Posted by Fiddy

I do, too. I feel Hollings will challenge Davis by the end of the year for the starting job and he could possibly win it next year...

I agree. I really like DoubleD's work ethic and style, but long term Hollings has more of an upside. I think he'll raise some eyebrows this season. Next year we can deal with the terrible problem of having 2 quality backs. Nice problem.

**texasguy346** · 07-27-2004

I think its more likely they go after Davenport or perhaps even a William Green. They seem to be in a bind as far as this year goes, but next year with James' interest in returning to Miami I don't see them having a RB problem.

07-27-2004

Why would Miami trade one of the best DE's in the NFL for a RB that hasn't proven anyting ? That would make absolutely no sense. The texans would have to offer more than just Hollings in a potential trade, and I don't think the Texans need another OLB that bad. That's why we traded our 2nd and 3rd picks to draft Babin remember ?

Beastlyman2003 · 07-29-2004

Have yall heard anything about this proposed trade? I got this off a rumor mill, and i dont know what to think but i doubt that the Dolphin need a RB so desperatly as to trade of of the better CBs in the league for an unproven, unhealthy, 2nd yr RB. Heard anything?

**infantrycak** · 07-29-2004

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Originally Posted by Beastlyman2003

Have yall heard anything about this proposed trade? I got this off a rumor mill, and i dont know what to think but i doubt that the Dolphin need a RB so desperatly as to trade of of the better CBs in the league for an unproven, unhealthy, 2nd yr RB. Heard anything?

What rumor mill other than your response to Bottle-O-Bud above?

BigDTexansFan · 07-29-2004

Can't see it happening although have to admit a #1 early in 1st round looks pretty good, charley casserly would be hard pressed to say no but am sure DD and TH will be working in backfield this season and next

TheOgre · 08-02-2004

Here is a relevant link:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2714260

If this is true, I think it is highly unlikely that DD gets 1700 yards.

Ibar_Harry · 08-02-2004

Kind of a deceptive article, because the top backs did average more than 20 times a game. Are they trying to say DD cann't do it? I still think Hollings has to show a lot more than he has, but if they think he's still a speed merchant they must know. He probably has healed fine. But he has to show he can get through the holes, and so far, he has shown much in that department. My only hope is the combination of DD and Hollings becomes the scourge of the league.

**Vinny** · 08-02-2004

I guess I'm not so crazy afterall...

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The Texans believe they have two good young running backs in Domanick Davis, who rushed for 1,031 yards in just 10 starts as a rookie last season, and Hollings, the player thought to be the team's running back of the future before Davis emerged.

Hollings, the NCAA's leading rusher after four games in 2002 before an ACL injury ended his season at Georgia Tech, is a backup for the purposes of depth charts. The Texans, however, consider him a playmaker.

"We'd like to run the ball 30 times a game," offensive coordinator Chris Palmer said. "We're going to have to split the load, and that's where Hollings is going to get his work. We're looking for Domanick to touch the ball 15, 18, 20 times a game, and we'd like to give Hollings 12 to 15 touches.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2714260

TheOgre · 08-02-2004

Yep Vinny you and I have been saying the same things about Hollings for a while. It is one of those rare items where we agree.

07-27-2004	#2
flawedout Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	i dont mind trading Mack but not hollings, it would be interesting to deal with them because we would pretty much do what we want with the trade seeing as how they are the team in need __________________ Caught up in a social degradation, you can't even see the truth.

07-27-2004	#7
SBTexans08 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 3rd Coast Age: 33 Posts: 677 Rep Power: 10	Ogunleye would def. be an OLB in our system. I say go for it....start negotiations pronto...before training camp starts!! I'd rather have him than any draft picks. __________________ MY XBOX 360 GAMER PROFILE

07-27-2004	#8
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Hollings isn't going anywhere. Frankly I think he is our lead-back of the future. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

07-27-2004	#13
bull pen tyler Guest Posts: n/a	Miami not that desparate Why would Miami trade one of the best DE's in the NFL for a RB that hasn't proven anyting ? That would make absolutely no sense. The texans would have to offer more than just Hollings in a potential trade, and I don't think the Texans need another OLB that bad. That's why we traded our 2nd and 3rd picks to draft Babin remember ?

07-29-2004	#14
Beastlyman2003 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: League City TX Age: 26 Posts: 226 Rep Power: 0	Tony Hollings for Sam Madison? Have yall heard anything about this proposed trade? I got this off a rumor mill, and i dont know what to think but i doubt that the Dolphin need a RB so desperatly as to trade of of the better CBs in the league for an unproven, unhealthy, 2nd yr RB. Heard anything?

07-27-2004	#1
cuppacoffee Resident Grouch Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 73 Posts: 3,984 Rep Power: 16239	Hollings to Fins? From Profootballtalk.com rumor mill "Cole also identifies various backs whom the Dolphins might acquire via a trade, including Tony Hollings of the Texans, Najeh "Dookie" Davenport of the Packers, and Lamar Gordon of the Rams. Hollings is the most enticing of this trio; he was the Texans' second-round pick in last year's supplemental draft, and league sources have in the past verified that his ability justifies the lofty draft status. Still, his future in Houston has been clouded by the unlikely emergence of fellow 2003 rookie Domanick Davis. " Think they want him bad enough for a #1? Dont they also have a disgruntled DE Ogenleye (sp?) Possibilities? Story

07-27-2004	#10
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	I think it is a possibility too. I am excited about our backfield this year. A lot more so than the past two years.

07-27-2004	#12
texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,066 Rep Power: 2881	I think its more likely they go after Davenport or perhaps even a William Green. They seem to be in a bind as far as this year goes, but next year with James' interest in returning to Miami I don't see them having a RB problem.

07-29-2004	#16
BigDTexansFan All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 576 Rep Power: 9	Hollings Trade Can't see it happening although have to admit a #1 early in 1st round looks pretty good, charley casserly would be hard pressed to say no but am sure DD and TH will be working in backfield this season and next

08-02-2004	#17
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Here is a relevant link: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2714260 If this is true, I think it is highly unlikely that DD gets 1700 yards.

08-02-2004	#18
Ibar_Harry Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,219 Rep Power: 14	Kind of a deceptive article, because the top backs did average more than 20 times a game. Are they trying to say DD cann't do it? I still think Hollings has to show a lot more than he has, but if they think he's still a speed merchant they must know. He probably has healed fine. But he has to show he can get through the holes, and so far, he has shown much in that department. My only hope is the combination of DD and Hollings becomes the scourge of the league.

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