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Old 07-16-2004   #1
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With two first round draft picks penciled in as starters, many fans seem to feel their performance with determine how far the Texans go this year. Expecting a #10 pick (Robinson) to start at cornerback, or a first round pick (Babin) to start at linebacker isn't particularly revolutionary. They do need to do their jobs for the Texans to show improvement (with defense it is the weakest link in the chain) but don't forget the sophomores. If they blossom, the Texans will have added a lot of solid, young talent to the teams they fielded in 2003-3.

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a) Seth Wand - penciled in as the starter at LT. Comparing him with a player drafted this year, he has a full year of invaluable experience in game preparation. There are a lot of excellent posts talking about his potential to make a big contribution this year;

b) Benny Joppru - Essentially a rookie, second round draft pick after missing all of last year. The Texans hope he develops into a solid, every down TE. The Texans had experience coaching him prior to drafting him (Senior Bowl 2002) and although he will feel like a rookie to us, he will have had an extra year in the system (meetings, etc) than a normal rookie;

c) Tony Hollings - drafted as a late second rounder, it was widely believed he would have to sit out last year. Comparing him with other 'rookies' drafted this year, he also has a full year of experience in the system and going through gameday experience. When a back has only started six games in college, this experience is significant. While it isn't expected that he will have to be the feature back because of Davis, he is well positioned to break out this year;

d) Derick Armstrong - Although not a signifcant contributor last year, the Texan coaching staff has high expectations for Armstrong. "We have high expectations for Derick going into this year based on what we saw from him on the practice field (He routinely makes jaw-dropping catches in practice). Hes very good at catching the ball in a crowd." (Dom Capers)

e) Dave Ragone - Although hopefully Carr will start all the games in 2004, Ragone's two starts in 2003 were invaluable to his development and value to the Texans. As I recall, he didn't get a lot of help (Davis only started 1 of the 2 games, Johnson dropped some catchable balls and only one projected starting lineman for this year, offense or defense, started in one game). He may have more ability than he has shown;

... plus Domanick Davis and Andre Johnson, who although sophomores this year they made significant contributions last year (in fact, Johnson was just a few yards short of them being the first two rookies ever to both have 1,000 yards) so that if they perform well it won't feel like 'new' contributions.

On Defense ...

a) Antwan Peek - While he showed flashes as a pass rusher and special teams player in 2003, he could emerge in 2004. Comparing him with a second or third round draft pick (the kind of rookies that the Titans and Colts are forced to rely on this year), Antwan has a year under his belt in the system and in gameday preparation that could prvoe invaluable.

I think all fans will keep an eye on Davis, Johnson, Robinson and Babin, but if even some of the above players shine, it could really be an exciting year for the Texans.
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I expect Joppru to emerge even with Miller and Bruener. He's suppose to be an exelent player and has good mentors in Miller for catching and Bruener for blocking.
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I dunno why people keep saying that our defense is a weak link. I dunno if the media has brainwashed them or what.. but try to remember that the only reason our defense was bad this last season is because of an alarming amount of injuries. in our first season our defense was VERY good.. and this year not only do we have 95% of those people returning.. we also have a better free saftey..and Robaire Smith.
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I think Robaire Smith is going to be a stud for us but I also think that Seth Payne's ability to play at full stregnth is going to be the key to our defense. If Seth's not able to go full speed then we maybe in trouble.
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Well if Payne is not ready.. we do still have Smith who can move to the inside and deloach to take his place at DE. Though I think payne is a very important part of our Dline and really really hope he comes back as strong as ever.
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Well if Payne is not ready.. we do still have Smith who can move to the inside and deloach to take his place at DE. Though I think payne is a very important part of our Dline and really really hope he comes back as strong as ever.
We won't know for sure until training camp, but I believe I read somewhere that the Texans' intention until Payne is at fulll strength is to use DeLoach at NT with Walker and Smith on the ends.
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this offseason we saw casserly and mcnair make some serious moves to better this team quickly...they have taken us off the 5yr plan and put us on what might be a 3yr plan...given that...our sophomores wiill have to produce and our junior is gonna have to prove that he is the man...our two freshman are being asked to pick up things quick and after a conversation i had with a fellow red raider...coming from the horses mouth the feeling inside the texans organization is one of let's do something special...let's make things happen for us...a very electric atmosphere in the locker room and we haven't even gotten to training camp...
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I agree with keyfro, it feels like there are a lot of quality additions to this year's team. Our old 4-5 year plan may have become a 3 year plan. We won't hit on everything, but lots of things could fall in place, from the emergence of the sophomores, to the heath of returning players (Payne), to players playing new players (Coleman, Pitts), to new coaches (OL), to new faces (free agents, draft picks and recovering sophomores).

I feel the quiet confidence that keyfro is referring to.
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IMO, we haven't changed from the 5 year plan, but there isn't much doubt that they have made a decision to be markedly better this year. I see it as a push to be close to the playoffs this year (outside chance of making it) with next year being the push into the playoffs and 06 (07 the latest) being a planed shot to go all the way. I think they saw a need to bring additional tallent in to have a year or two together before the real push. Actually I hope I am wrong and we go all the way this year, but that would be a high odds situation.
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