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Old 07-02-2004   #1
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Thumbs up vinny, aj, cnd what's going on

Guys the houstontexans.com website is saying they just signed FA Spears OT played for Giants and a WR from the Jets??

But my question is 'WHY'? The young guys that have gone through minicamps must not have impressed much if they are still adding what looks like at best is training camp fodder. Where am I missing the boat?

Also this year the Texans only get to take 80 men(I think) to training camp plus the NFLE exemptions = 88 men. Texans currently have 94 men not counting TCharles WR NFLE IR or T Stevens RB NFLE IR on their roster. To me that means they have to release 6 more before TC begins.

current roster
12 WR
18 OL 7 OT 6 OG 5 C (INCL PITTMAN)
5 TE
8 RB/FB 4 RB 4 FB
4 QB

11 DL 4 DT 7 DE
15 LB 8 OLB 7 ILB
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7 S

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Old 07-02-2004   #2
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As far the WR, they always bring in guys around camp that are released. I'm sure he is a long shot, but the scouts must see something in him, and want to give him an opportunity. Competition is good, not bad.

As far as the Tackle, I saw that in the paper. My take is that this means that they are more convinced that Wand will be the starting LT. If Wand starts, they don't really have an experienced true tackle as a backup. Not sure he is a lock to make the roster, but they might consider using him as a backup at RT and LT, instead of trying to swing Pitts and Weigert from the guard spots out to tackle. He's also a very experienced vet, and may be able to share some tricks of the trade with the young guys. I see it as a major plus.

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I don't think it "means" anything really (not in July). Waiver pick ups and such are guys you look at for reserve spots and if a guy can play, he can play, and the OT is a vet so that is a good thing. You bring in guys who you think can play and let the competition sort itself out. Competition is a good thing.
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I have the same question and nobody answered his question. If there is a limit to the number of people that can go into the training camp why are they picking up all of these people and how do they evaluate them before the training camp? He's asking, "don't they have to let people go before the training camp? Have they decided not to keep some of the rookies without even getting a shot at the training camp?
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There is plenty of room for the rookies. I'll find the camp number unless someone beats me to it but I think its around 80. This is the time (off-season) when you try to find solid players who you hope can either make the team or at least give your reserves some solid competition to get better. The Texans have a grade on all the players on the NFL. It's not like they are an unknown.

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Houston Texans: Still trying to add offensive line depth before the start of training camp, the Texans on Friday signed veteran free agent Marcus Spears, who had been released by the Kansas City Chiefs on June 16.

A versatile 10-year veteran, Spears figures to be a valuable backup for the Texans at both tackle and guard. He becomes the second veteran tackle added by Texas this offseason, with the club having acquired former Miami Dolphins starter Todd Wade earlier in the signing period. Wade is slated to be the starting right tackle.

Spears, 32, had been with the Chiefs since 1997 and started at guard and tackle at various times in his tenure with the club.

"By letting him go now," said coach Vermeil upon Spears' release, "it enhances his opportunities to get a job, and he will get a job."

Indeed, there were several teams interested in adding Spears, who is also regarded as a player of high character. Details of his contract with the Texans were unavailable, but the deal is expected to be a modest one.

In releasing Spears, Vermeil and general manager Carl Peterson cited the improvement of young players for creating a tight "numbers game" on what traditionally has been one of the league's top offensive line units. The Chiefs added offensive linemen Brett Williams and Jordan Black in the 2003 draft and Kevin Sampson in this year's lottery.
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I just went to players and I counted 95 people on the Texans list. Because of eye sight I might have miscounted by one or two, but it seems to me there are more people on the list than you think. Again, what does that mean? Must we get rid of people before the start to TC?
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HOUSTON - The Houston Texans signed free agent offensive tackle Marcus Spears.

Spears (6-4, 320), an 11-year veteran, spent the past seven years in Kansas City. Spears played in 79 games, starting 18 as a Chief.

Spears was drafted by Chicago in the second-round from NW Louisiana St. in 1994. He played in nine games over three years for the Bears.


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Spears will be fighting with Garrick Jones for the ninth and final OL spot on the roster
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Actually I'm much more inclined to think that he is fighing for Todd Washington's Veteran reserve role on the team. A lot of people just pencil in Washington but I wasn't too impressed with him last season. We have other guys who can play Center in a reserve role (Brown and Weary were both College Centers), but Spears can play Guard and Tackle, something the lead-footed Washington cannot do.
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Really the bottom line to this acquisition is for us to look at the IR list over the last two years for our team and especially the injury list for our Oline in the first year when we spent some good money on very excellent OTs.

I am sure the Texans do not want to repeat that process this year during camp as this should be our best offensive year and as a team. So we see a guy on the waiver wire who is an above average to good OT and we sign him to strengthen our depth and to increase the level of competition. I think it was a good pick up.
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Actually I'm much more inclined to think that he is fighing for Todd Washington's Veteran reserve role on the team. A lot of people just pencil in Washington but I wasn't too impressed with him last season. We have other guys who can play Center in a reserve role (Brown and Weary were both College Centers), but Spears can play Guard and Tackle, something the lead-footed Washington cannot do.
I don't think Brown or Weary played very much at center in college, and they also haven't much center in the NFL. Have either of them snapped the ball once in a regular season NFL game? It will be interesting to see how many snaps Weary and Washington (and maybe Brown) get at center in training camp and the exhibition games. That should give us an indication of who is getting the most attention at backup center.
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Weary played Center his entire Jr year at TN (I was living in Tennessee at that time) and if you look at most of the draft recaps he is listed as a Center. For instance at drafthistory.com he is listed as a C there too (for some reference). Weary also played some Defensive Tackle, but he was a Guard for the most part. Excellent athlete for a big man (wrestler).
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