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Old 03-31-2014   #1
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According g to 610 radio manning is gone. Still have doubt this is a rebuilding year?
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A quick google shows a lot of new stories coming out with this.

Sources including Schefter.

Bummer, I had high hopes for the Manning signing.
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Any cap gurus out there know what this means towards the salary cap?
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Any cap gurus out there know what this means towards the salary cap?
We pick up $4.5M
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We pick up $4.5M
Nice chunk of change to add depth.
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Nice chunk of change to add depth.
unknown "depth" =/= good starter
Not sure this was a good deal.

Are they simply getting rid of all the Wade/Gary guys?
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Saw this coming...

Manning is what 32 coming off two leg injuries in 3 years...

Good luck on his future endevours...

Wonder if he is on the phone with Lovie in Tampa right know...
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New head coach with a new coaching staff = rebuilding. It was settled for me a long time ago. But it's not a point worth arguing about unless you want to argue about Bob McNohair's ridiculous little speeches.
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New head coach with a new coaching staff = rebuilding. It was settled for me a long time ago. But it's not a point worth arguing about unless you want to argue about Bob McNohair's ridiculous little speeches.

Well don't forget the 06 Saints that completely turned over the roster and went deep into the playoffs.

Now they did have Brees leading but I don't think it will take that long to turn it around..

At least I hope not...

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We'll be fine. Manning was a baller but he was hurt an awful lot. When your best guys are always injured you don't have any "best guys". We see that all the time with Cushing and Manning was no Cushing. He was an asset but he wasn't that kind of difference maker.

Makes sense to me that it's time to move on.
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We'll be fine. Manning was a baller but he was hurt an awful lot. When your best guys are always injured you don't have any "best guys". We see that all the time with Cushing and Manning was no Cushing. He was an asset but he wasn't that kind of difference maker.

Makes sense to me that it's time to move on.
^^^^ This! Looks like we are trying to get younger as well as improve cap space
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I thought he agreed to a pay cut to stay on.....
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first time in texans history it seems we're really trying to address the safety position.. 2 new young guys at the position in less than a month and a 2nd round pick from last year will all be competing for time next year...
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first time in texans history it seems we're really trying to address the safety position.. 2 new young guys at the position in less than a month and a 2nd round pick from last year will all be competing for time next year...
Two new young players?
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Not a fan of leaving the safety position to a new acquisition and two young guys but eh, at least we clear some money.
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Apparently Manning was asked last week to take a pay cut, and he refused thus the Texans released him.

Not much more to say. Good luck. Good but not great player who had some injury issues. I would have liked to have kept him, but I can see why they wanted him to take a cut in pay. Clemons can do a decent job replacing him I think.

I've said all along this is a rebuild. Anyone that thinks otherwise is not living in reality.
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Apparently Manning was asked last week to take a pay cut, and he refused thus the Texans released him.

Not much more to say. Good luck. Good but not great player who had some injury issues. I would have liked to have kept him, but I can see why they wanted him to take a cut in pay. Clemons can do a decent job replacing him I think.

I've said all along this is a rebuild. Anyone that thinks otherwise is not living in reality.
I haven't come to terms with it just yet. In other threads, I suggested we cut OD & DMann to free up cap space, but that was arguing with people saying we needed the money to sign "starters"

I understand their histories, but when they were healthy they both earned their money, I thought. The only reason to cut them, is if you plan on signing difference makers.

We already had enough money to fill out the roster with roll players, vet minimum guys, our draft picks & a few UDFAs... most of the "starters" are already signed by other teams. I can't imagine the Texans are clearing cap space to roll into next season when we gained $17M by trading Schaub, the cap goes up $10M due to the Thursday night contracts, & the new TV deal should give us another bump.

Makes you wonder if something is going on down on Kirby.
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Apparently Manning was asked last week to take a pay cut, and he refused thus the Texans released him.

Not much more to say. Good luck. Good but not great player who had some injury issues. I would have liked to have kept him, but I can see why they wanted him to take a cut in pay. Clemons can do a decent job replacing him I think.

I've said all along this is a rebuild. Anyone that thinks otherwise is not living in reality.
I still think it's something different. Call it a "modern rebuild". I think they're trying to rebuild and win at the same time. We've really seen a "build" (2002-2005) and one bare-cupboard "rebuild" (2006-2009) in our time as Texans fans. this is a different kind of rebuild. There are players here. There are players here who have won here. This is an attempt to fix what's broken and start winning in a year, maybe two tops.

That's what I think. Not much to go on yet but the Texans approach so far to free agency has been intelligent, dynamic (for them), and consistent. This is kind of like the year that Manning and Joseph were signed. That year you got a feeling that the Texans were working according to a plan which felt really different from most years. They may have had a plan most years for free agency but it always felt like it was a stupid plan or a very short-sighted plan. Grabbing guys who were over the hill, paying too much for too little (basically the Ed Reed deal is the perfect example of that).

The year we brought in Joseph and Manning you got the feeling that the Texans were doing things the smart way. This year feels like that. Good moves in free agency. Nothing stinking of desperation for a change. Getting something for Schaub was smart. Letting Manning go when they couldn't make a deal to restructure was smart.

Feels like the new era that it is. Makes it easier to enjoy being a fan of the team when you don't feel like they're wandering around blindfolded in a minefield taking directions from the other GM's.
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I never believed it when he said it. No head coach, staff, or starting QB at the time. It was obvious to everyone, but he still needs to rah rah to sell tickets and keep that on-going 12 year sellout streak going. I don't hold it against him, though. It's what he's supposed to do.
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Yes I expect this team to be competitive next year. At least 8 win depending on who they get at QB.

Our division isn't tough. There is still a lot of talent on this team. We have 11 picks in a good draft. We can still shore up some spots in FA and we just got 4.5 mil from Dman being cut.

But again, all depends on QB play.
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