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Old 03-13-2014   #1
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Default Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

If Houston signed Wilfork I wouldn't have the slightest problem whatsoever. Not - at - all.

Dude would be expensive, though.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.
He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

I've had my fill of signing older injured players.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.
Or the Raiders.

They have money to burn and low expectations.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.
Any deal would have to be low or heavily incentivized. No more retirement contracts for us.

How about $1M base with a $250,000 bonus for playing more than ten plays in a game? If injured, he receives backup money. If starting, about $5M/yr. No more $5M because you used to be good.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.
If he's turning down $8M (not including signing bonus cap hit) from NE, he'll be too expensive for Houston.

People still can't get used to the spending cap and the limitations it places on obtaining every good player in FA. They just want everybody.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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If he's turning down $8M (not including signing bonus cap hit) from NE, he'll be too expensive for Houston.

People still can't get used to the spending cap and the limitations it places on obtaining every good player in FA. They just want everybody.
He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.
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He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.
Right. We don't know what they offered him. My concern is health and age. But if he can play, wow. What a great addition to help play right now and help mentor a younger developing NT.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

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Right. We don't know what they offered him. My concern is health and age. But if he can play, wow. What a great addition to help play right now and help mentor a younger developing NT.
I too have loved Wilfork, the player and the person. However, an Achilles in a locomotive size NT???? Terrible situation.

He suffered his injury pushing off..........without resistance against opposing O.



Now he will be expected to continue pushing off against double teams. His performance WILL be compromised and the risk for re-reputure is ~5% (probably higher because of his size the position.......ala Philly's LT Jason Peters) and his risk for further compensatory injury is high.

Keep in mind that though Wilfork only missed 6 games in his 10 year career, he was intermittently throughout the seasons on the Patriot Injury Reports for a foot/ankle during EVERY year except for 2007 and 2008. And knowing Belichik, the foot/ankle listings were used ultra sparingly.
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I too have loved Wilfork, the player and the person. However, an Achilles in a locomotive size NT???? Terrible situation.

He suffered his injury pushing off..........without resistance against opposing O.



Now he will be expected to continue pushing off against double teams. His performance WILL be compromised and the risk for re-reputure is ~5% (probably higher because of his size the position.......ala Philly's LT Jason Peters) and his risk for further compensatory injury is high.

Keep in mind that though Wilfork only missed 6 games in his 10 year career, he was intermittently throughout the seasons on the Patriot Injury Reports for a foot/ankle during EVERY year except for 2007 and 2008. And knowing Belichik, the foot/ankle listings were used ultra sparingly.
Well that's good enough for me.

I'll pass on wilfork.
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Right. We don't know what they offered him. My concern is health and age. But if he can play, wow. What a great addition to help play right now and help mentor a younger developing NT.
With the Texans history of blowing calls like his on health in the past .... I'm scared he'd just be Tony Bosseli / Ed Reed v9.0.
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With the Texans history of blowing calls like his on health in the past .... I'm scared he'd just be Tony Bosseli / Ed Reed v9.0.
Tony Boselli..... Ed Reed...... Vince Wilfork......

Sounds like the beginning of some kind of Personnel "Ring of Dishonor". Maybe shoehorn Ahman Green in there too.
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He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.
Base ($7.5M) plus 500K in non signing bonuses makes $8M. I suspect he'll get that or he wouldn't ask for his release, even if NE is asking him to take a cut. But say you're right. How much do you think he could get from Houston? Just remember that we have a lot of holes to fill with the cap space left.
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Default Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE

I love Wilfork. Would love to have him on this team, but not at the price he'll demand. I don't see us as a SB contender, so I don't see why we would pay him all of that money.
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Base ($7.5M) plus 500K in non signing bonuses makes $8M. I suspect he'll get that or he wouldn't ask for his release, even if NE is asking him to take a cut. But say you're right. How much do you think he could get from Houston? Just remember that we have a lot of holes to fill with the cap space left.
I don't think the Texans will or should make a run at him, but I think the market price will be something right around the same as an avg. per year instead of a base and on a limited 2-3 year contract - which will be structured such that anything after year 2 is easy to dump.
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Maybe he'll give us a discount so he can be close to Ted Johnson to kick his ass.
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Default Vince Wilfork Trade Rumors and Texans

Was just listening to 610am Sports Radio and they were on the phone with a Boston reporter with the latest that Vince Wilfork supposedly was asked to take a pay cut and he went to his locker, took his name down, grabbed his gear and said "I Quit".


Now before you move this thread....there was talk between the broadcaster that the Texans would love to have him here. The Boston informer was asked questions of his health, his potential desires to work with Bill O'Brian again, and what salary he might seek with the Texans.


Knowing he might have flown off the handle, and the fact that he could still possibly work out a deal with the Patriots; it was said by the Boston informer that this episode looks final.


Wilfork as a Texan? Any comments?
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Coming off an Achilles, it would be late in the year before he is the guy we want him to be. We could probably get him cheap though, but it would be a waste of a roster spot as we wait for him to contribute next year.
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft compared Vince Wilfork, who has requested to be released, to some of the franchise's greats in expressing his hope that the standout defensive tackle will remain with the team.
Kraft wants him to stay.
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