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As are some of you, I am constantly searching for bits of info on players. Not much in this article about his actual progress but does go specifically into his meniscus surgery and offers eval from Matt Miller as second round pick. My concern is his weight (345) and if it is bone on bone.

Perhaps CNNND can offer input. Unless he can be said to be ready to play game one, I would not draft him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-the-nfl-draft
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Nix is a definite fit for Crennel's defense. In the 3 games I watched, Nix could not anchor and was easily blocked 1 on 1 by the OC or the OG.
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Nix is a definite fit for Crennel's defense. In the 3 games I watched, Nix could not anchor and was easily blocked 1 on 1 by the OC or the OG.
Reading your posts are like reading emails from my 12 y/o brothers. Actually, that might be a little harsh... to my brothers.

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badboy- I am very uncomfortable mocking Nix III to us at this point. That injury worries me, his weight history worries me, and the last couple games he played worried me.
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Reading your posts are like reading emails from my 12 y/o brothers. Actually, that might be a little harsh... to my brothers.

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apparently you must be infatuated with the girth....
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apparently you must be infatuated with the girth....
No idea what you are trying to say here. I clearly stated that I would not be comfortable taking Nix in the second.

I am curious as to why Nix is perfect for Crennel's defense since he can't (in your opinion) anchor and is easily blocked 1-on-1. What about that makes him a perfect fit?
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No idea what you are trying to say here. I clearly stated that I would not be comfortable taking Nix in the second.

I am curious as to why Nix is perfect for Crennel's defense since he can't (in your opinion) anchor and is easily blocked 1-on-1. What about that makes him a perfect fit?
I have no idea why my comment, that in the 3 games I watched I found Nix unable to anchor and was often blocked by 1 OG or 1 OC is the equivalent of a 12 yr old email, or worse insulting to 12 yr old emails. (maybe I am a 12 year old a heart)

Nix is a good fit Crennel's defense because the history of a Crennel defense starts with a two gap NG (usually a man of girth) which is exactly what Nix is. My opinion is not absolute. I think you will find that many more will disagree with my findings regarding Nix than agree. Many will also say that Nix did not play well the 2nd half of the season due to injury.

As to the "girth" comment, you will also find that many here think that BIG is better, regardless.
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Nix is a definite fit for Crennel's defense. In the 3 games I watched, Nix could not anchor and was easily blocked 1 on 1 by the OC or the OG.
Texian, the above post is where all this confusion comes from. It's not internally consistent, unless you have a very poor opinion of Crennel's defense and expect him to fail. To say someone is a "fit" for a defense, and then to follow it up with saying they are not good at the primary purpose of their role is odd, to say the least.

Did you mean to put a "not" in the first sentence?
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Texian, the above post is where all this confusion comes from. It's not internally consistent, unless you have a very poor opinion of Crennel's defense and expect him to fail. To say someone is a "fit" for a defense, and then to follow it up with saying they are not good at the primary purpose of their role is odd, to say the least.

Did you mean to put a "not" in the first sentence?
I should have said, "Nix's size" and then added "However"
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As are some of you, I am constantly searching for bits of info on players. Not much in this article about his actual progress but does go specifically into his meniscus surgery and offers eval from Matt Miller as second round pick. My concern is his weight (345) and if it is bone on bone.

Perhaps CNNND can offer input. Unless he can be said to be ready to play game one, I would not draft him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-the-nfl-draft
Back in the middle of December, in response to a request, I posted this about Nix.......it still stands.:

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As far as Nix, no mention was made of which meniscus/menisci were torn. But, if accurate, some reports reveal that the surgery involved "repair" not "excision." Repair is a harder longer recovery. What bothers me the most about Nix is that he has been dealing with a chronic case of patellar tendonitis.......the predecessor of patellar tendon rupture, ala our own Cushing and Newton. Being a big man, the condition and potential of rupture is more concerning. If he does eventually rupture, expect a long recovery closer to Newton (who was rushed back and not given enough time to completely rehab)........and we know how that's turned out.
I don't know what 2nd knee surgery the article is talking about........Nix has only undergone ONE knee surgery. As far as the platelet rich plasma injections........(outside of experimentation and investigational purposes) they are strictly for tendonitis problems........there is no evidence in the medical literature that demonstrates that healing of a damaged meniscus cartilage is truly facilitated with such injection. Same for ligaments. For that matter, there is no study in the literature that has been proven that it improves tendonitis in any area but the elbow (extrapolation to other tendons have been just that........extrapolation). Further research in the future may confirm that the effects can be expected in tendonous structures in general.
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Back in the middle of December, in response to a request, I posted this about Nix.......it still stands.:
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As far as Nix, no mention was made of which meniscus/menisci were torn. But, if accurate, some reports reveal that the surgery involved "repair" not "excision." Repair is a harder longer recovery. What bothers me the most about Nix is that he has been dealing with a chronic case of patellar tendonitis.......the predecessor of patellar tendon rupture, ala our own Cushing and Newton. Being a big man, the condition and potential of rupture is more concerning. If he does eventually rupture, expect a long recovery closer to Newton (who was rushed back and not given enough time to completely rehab)........and we know how that's turned out.
I don't know what 2nd knee surgery the article is talking about........Nix has only undergone ONE knee surgery. As far as the platelet rich plasma injections........(outside of experimentation and investigational purposes) they are strictly for tendonitis problems........there is no evidence in the medical literature that demonstrates that healing of a damaged meniscus cartilage is truly facilitated with such injection. Same for ligaments. For that matter, there is no study in the literature that has been proven that it improves tendonitis in any area but the elbow (extrapolation to other tendons have been just that........extrapolation). Further research in the future may confirm that the effects can be expected in tendonous structures in general.
Not interested in risking that high of a pick on those problems.
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yes, this is why his stock has tumbled but try to convince a fellow poster who has wanted a legitimate run plugger in the middle of Texan 3-4 for, I don't know how long, maybe inception? then you get a good idea why Ra'Shede Hageman stock has soared even though he looked lost @ times during Senior Bowl week. Otherwise Nix is twice the prospect.
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I wont get into a pissing match about nix. I am not sure who said it, but he looks great physically as a nt, but look at the games. For as much as they say mccullers was there, the bama inside with womack and company could not move mccullers. People knocked teo in that championship game, but look further and you will see nix getting blown off the ball which allowed the ol get on the lbs. Ray lewis is one of the greatest ever, but post adams and sirigusa, he was on skates until they drafted ngata. Its vital even in 1 gap to control the gaps.

If it were me and thinking about versitility, I like kelcy quarles. Hes not 330, hes closer to 305, but his frame at 6'4 can easily hold 20lbs. He has long arms, good power and he can also play the nt or 5 tech. Hes probably a mid 3rd to mid 4th. He would give the texans alot of flexibility up front to morph into different fronts. Jmo
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I wont get into a pissing match about nix. I am not sure who said it, but he looks great physically as a nt, but look at the games. For as much as they say mccullers was there, the bama inside with womack and company could not move mccullers. People knocked teo in that championship game, but look further and you will see nix getting blown off the ball which allowed the ol get on the lbs. Ray lewis is one of the greatest ever, but post adams and sirigusa, he was on skates until they drafted ngata. Its vital even in 1 gap to control the gaps.

If it were me and thinking about versitility, I like kelcy quarles. Hes not 330, hes closer to 305, but his frame at 6'4 can easily hold 20lbs. He has long arms, good power and he can also play the nt or 5 tech. Hes probably a mid 3rd to mid 4th. He would give the texans alot of flexibility up front to morph into different fronts. Jmo
I like McCullers a lot too.

The attention given to Clowney made Quarles look like a great prospect. IMHO

I would take Quarles in the 4th as a 5 tech. He's going to test very well at the combine.
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Not interested in risking that high of a pick on those problems.
Understood, but nix is a very good/great prospect and without those knee issues there's no way Nix would be available at 33. He probably wont be available at 33 anyway.
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