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Old 01-25-2014   #1
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Interesting - http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

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Teams that WalterFootball.com has heard could be interested in trading for Roethlisberger include the Houston Texans and Arizona Cardinals. The Texans selection at the top of the second round and a 2015 conditional pick could mimic what the Chiefs gave for Alex Smith last year.

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I am going to say no thanks for same reasons noted that Steelers don't want to pay him big money
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I thought conditional picks couldn't be traded? Or does this guy just not know what he's talking about?
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They heard? - from whom, the scotch they were discussing this over?

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I thought conditional picks couldn't be traded? Or does this guy just not know what he's talking about?
You are thinking compensatory picks which can't be traded. A conditional pick is inherently one which is involved in a trade - it's identity (rd) is determined by certain conditions. So they are suggesting something like 2.1 this year plus a 3rd next year which could become a 2nd if Big Ben has over 3000 passing yards.
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The Steelers have prepared no one to replace Roethlisberger. Based on that fact alone, he stays in Pittsburgh.
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Default Re: Ben Roethlisberger?

Zona should be ALL OVER THIS.
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They heard? - from whom, the scotch they were discussing this over?



You are thinking compensatory picks which can't be traded. A conditional pick is inherently one which is involved in a trade - it's identity (rd) is determined by certain conditions. So they are suggesting something like 2.1 this year plus a 3rd next year which could become a 2nd if Big Ben has over 3000 passing yards.
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Always liked Ben.

Would be interesting as a temporary measure.
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They heard? - from whom, the scotch they were discussing this over?



You are thinking compensatory picks which can't be traded. A conditional pick is inherently one which is involved in a trade - it's{sic} identity (rd) is determined by certain conditions. So they are suggesting something like 2.1 this year plus a 3rd next year which could become a 2nd if Big Ben has over 3000 passing yards.
No to Roethlisberger. The price is just too high for a QB near the end of his career.
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Big Ben would be great IF we had a line to protect him and he was healthy, idk if we can achieve either and even we could he's not going anywhere this year
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With Munchak being named Steelers OC, I suspect that there is no way that Big Ben goes anywhere. With Munchak, Ben can expect much better protection....in turn, with less likelihood for injury.
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No to Roethlisberger. The price is just too high for a QB near the end of his career.
If he's near the end of his career, his career has several more productive years left.

He played some of the best football of his career in the last half of the season.
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No to Roethlisberger. The price is just too high for a QB near the end of his career.
He's 32 yrs old ? How much are you willing to pay for a former SB winning QB that can give you 5-8 yrs of the best QB play this franchise has ever seen?
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I thought conditional picks couldn't be traded? Or does this guy just not know what he's talking about?
Is that NFL or MLB that can't be traded. I was thinking the latter. It is the former.
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I am going to say no thanks for same reasons noted that Steelers don't want to pay him big money
So you don't believe BoB when he says he believes this will be a quick turnaround?

If I'm BoB and I truly beleive this (which I don't) then I'm all in on Big Ben.
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So you don't believe BoB when he says he believes this will be a quick turnaround?

If I'm BoB and I truly beleive this (which I don't) then I'm all in on Big Ben.
I don't think the Steelers would take anything but something we would consider highway robbery (something that starts with 1.1 + X, y...) so I don't expect it to happen but if he were offered as described it would be a no brainer. I would even do it for 1.1 alone.
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I don't think the Steelers would take anything but something we would consider highway robbery (something that starts with 1.1 + X, y...) so I don't expect it to happen but if he were offered as described it would be a no brainer. I would even do it for 1.1 alone.
Agreed, but I'm not a cap expert?

How would they fit him under the cap?
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Agreed, but I'm not a cap expert?

How would they fit him under the cap?
Well it ain't happening so no point in getting too specific. They could go all sorts of ways. He is under contract for two more years.

Remember - 1) in any trade, the Texans would get him for only the base salaries and the Steelers would eat the dead money for bonuses and 2) if the Texans "could have" done it for $20 mil for Manning then they can do it for $12 for Big Ben.
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The Steelers have prepared no one to replace Roethlisberger. Based on that fact alone, he stays in Pittsburgh.

Was thinking the same thing. He is going nowhere.


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Giving up 2.1 for Big Ben would make it easier to make a trade with Cleveland and try and get those 2 1st rounders and maybe a 3rd or picks next year. Target a top defensive player and a lineman with those 2 1st rounders and look to provide secondary help in the 3rd.

I'm not saying I would want them to go this route, I haven't thought enough about it to form a strong opinion one way or another, but it does improve the QB play and allows other holes to be filled as well.
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