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Old 01-21-2014   #1
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I can't help but be intrigued by this guy.

He seems to have such good physical tools, is book smart (graduated already in a real qualification), and only started QBing in college after being recruited as a TE.

I am pro-Bridgewater in the first (or Manziel or Bortles if push came to shove) but I would not be opposed to coming back to Thomas if he was there in the 5th.

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I can't help but be intrigued by this guy.

He seems to have such good physical tools, is book smart (graduated already in a real qualification), and only started QBing in college after being recruited as a TE.

I am pro-Bridgewater in the first (or Manziel or Bortles if push came to shove) but I would not be opposed to coming back to Thomas if he was there in the 5th.

Thoughts?

If a guy is inexperienced and catching up, then I want a high IQ as well. Otherwise, he'll be gone before he's of any use. He looks like he's worth taking a flyer on in the late rounds.

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Default Re: Logan Thomas: QB: Virginia Tech

I would draft him in the 5th and move him to te. As a qb prospect, he's looks good until he actually plays. If he runs a 4.5 40, and performs well in 3 cone and shuttle, I'm moving him to te.
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Default Re: Logan Thomas: QB: Virginia Tech

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Dude has been pretty mediocre his entire career. Couldnt even put up points against a horrid Michigan defense in the Sugar bowl a few years back.

Kinda reminds me of Josh Freeman out of K-State. I was shocked when he went 17 overall. Measureables were great, but didnt produce in the Big12.

Like you said, Thomas will probably be overdrafted due to his measureables, but he is not worth more than a project 4th round.
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Maybe he'll be willing to play TE.
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Wouldn't touch him. He held VT back during his time there IMO.
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F*ck and No.
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Wouldn't touch him. He held VT back during his time there IMO.
So true.

Though, I don't view that as a bad thing (born and raised UVa fan).
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I can't help but be intrigued by this guy.

He seems to have such good physical tools, is book smart (graduated already in a real qualification), and only started QBing in college after being recruited as a TE.

I am pro-Bridgewater in the first (or Manziel or Bortles if push came to shove) but I would not be opposed to coming back to Thomas if he was there in the 5th.

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I have no problems with taking Thomas in the fifth round. He's a project that has the size and arm strength for the NFL. If you let him sit a few years behind a Bridgewater/Bortles you could find yourself with a capable backup. A lot of his negatives seem to just be his lack of experience at the position.
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Is he open to being a TE?
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Is he open to being a TE?
If not he's an idiot. It may be his only chance in the nfl.
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If not he's an idiot. It may be his only chance in the nfl.
This is starting to sound like the Tebow comments from last year.
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only if he plays TE
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I can't help but be intrigued by this guy.

He seems to have such good physical tools, is book smart (graduated already in a real qualification), and only started QBing in college after being recruited as a TE.

I am pro-Bridgewater in the first (or Manziel or Bortles if push came to shove) but I would not be opposed to coming back to Thomas if he was there in the 5th.

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I'd be willing to use a 4th on him. Surely he's going to be a project.... plan B, incase Bridgewater/Bortles don't make it.

Heck, I'd be fine with drafting this guy in the 4th.... even the third, if we sign Josh Freeman.

But, I don't see Bridgewater or Manziel as tier 1 QBs.
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I'd be willing to use a 4th on him. Surely he's going to be a project.... plan B, incase Bridgewater/Bortles don't make it.

Heck, I'd be fine with drafting this guy in the 4th.... even the third, if we sign Josh Freeman.

But, I don't see Bridgewater or Manziel as tier 1 QBs.
You would be fine with walking into camp with Freeman, Thomas, and Keenum as our QB's? If we had the #1 pick and walked into camp with that QB crop I would fire everybody.

Just my opinion, but I see you keep on talking about prototypical QB's and how Bridgewater and Co. don't add up to your prototypical standards. On the flip side, just because a guy has prototypical measurements (Freeman & Thomas) doesn't mean they can play QB worth a lick.

Skill sets are much more important than measureables. When your best attribute as a QB is that you're big, then there's a problem.
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You would be fine with walking into camp with Freeman, Thomas, and Keenum as our QB's? If we had the #1 pick and walked into camp with that QB crop I would fire everybody.
You would be fine walking into camp with Bridgewater or Manziel? If we had the #1 pick & we became the first franchise to draft a QB first overall who weighed less than 210... I'd fire every body.

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Just my opinion, but I see you keep on talking about prototypical QB's and how Bridgewater and Co. don't add up to your prototypical standards. On the flip side, just because a guy has prototypical measurements (Freeman & Thomas) doesn't mean they can play QB worth a lick.
& even with their size, I don't suggest taking either of them with the #1 overall, nowhere close. There's a trade off. Bridgewater may have the experience of playing in a "pro" system, but so did Aj McCarron. It's a knock on McCarron because he was surrounded by talent... yet I feel Bridgewater's receivers made him look really good with major YAC & amazing catches (not a popular opinion, but it is mine). McCarron also didn't play well against better competition... but it was better competition.

& yes, If Kubiak can make Matt Schaub a "starter" based on what he was in Atlanta, OB should be able to get as much (if not more) out of Freeman if he's half the QB guru Kubiak "is"

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Skill sets are much more important than measureables. When your best attribute as a QB is that you're big, then there's a problem.
People said Michael Vick wouldn't be able to play a full season in the NFL. He's hell on wheels when he's healthy enough to play though. Vick had a "wow" factor about him to compensate for his "lack of size" (6'1' 210lbs)... imo, Bridgewater doesn't have enough "wow" to compensate for his 6'3" 206lb frame + lesser competition + shoddy mechanics.

None of them are perfect. But I'd rather try to fix "big with issues" than "small with issues."

But that's me. You don't have to agree, I'm fine with that.
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thunder, please enlighten me on what makes you like Josh Freeman so much, because just about everyone else in the world other than you and his mother agree that he is a bad QB.
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thunder, please enlighten me on what makes you like Josh Freeman so much, because just about everyone else in the world other than you and his mother agree that he is a bad QB.
I don't like Josh Freeman. I like Josh Freeman + Zach Mettenberger/Aj McCarron/Logan Thomas better than Teddy Bridgewater. I'm not ready to say Josh is a bad QB. He's been in some bad situations, didn't handle them all to well, but who knows... maybe he learned something from them.

I'm perfectly fine giving Freeman "one last chance," a full training camp with my team, to allow my rookie QB time to adjust. If you guys are right & Freeman is "bad" there will be plenty of opportunity to insert the rookie into real games & prepare him to become a starter in the NFL.
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