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Old 01-15-2014   #1
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. . . you won't like Bill O'Brien for very long. Capers and Kubiak were off-the-cuff rambling chatterboxes compared to how OB will be running things.

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It is one month before the combine, two months before the start of free agency, three months before the 2014 schedule is released, four months before the NFL draft and six months before training camp begins, yet already new Texans coach Bill O'Brien is trying to win.

O'Brien repeatedly will remind us of a singular focus on winning the next game; that is his way. But for now, he is trying to win over the minds of the Texans. Minds that were tough enough to prevent players from turning on each other but not strong enough to figure out how to put a stop to a 31/2-month slide.

It isn't often that an NFL team enters a season talking seriously about the Super Bowl and leaves it sulking over a 14-game losing streak. In the past eight seasons, there were plenty of highs, but too often Gary Kubiak's Texans showed a startling lack of mental toughness. It is something opponents noticed, and something owner Bob McNair often questioned. To what extent that was on the head coach is up for debate, but Kubiak was fired in early December because of it.

In comes O'Brien with a new attitude and a different approach. Of course, there is more than one way to skin a Jaguar. O'Brien's way is going to be quite unlike Kubiak's. O'Brien has been on the job less than two weeks, but already you can see changes at Reliant Stadium. As NFL Network's Albert Breer was first to note, O'Brien has removed references to individual accomplishments from the building. The Texans used to have posters of players who had won individual weekly awards throughout their team meeting room. Gone. They had posters of a few players with their individual accomplishments in the locker room. Gone.

The message: Football is a team game, and team accomplishments are what will be celebrated. The "there is no I in team" message isn't a unique one - the Texans have heard that before - but O'Brien wants to ensure there is no mistaking that individual accomplishments will never supersede team goals. As best he can, and with all that he can control, everything will be about the group.

"As far as individual players, you are never going to get me to talk specific guys too much; it is always going to be the team," O'Brien said after he took over as the head coach at Penn State two years ago. That approach is similar to that of Bill Belichick, whom O'Brien worked under from 2007-11.

O'Brien has said he will be his own man, but undoubtedly he recognized some of the good things Belichick has done at New England and will implement those in Houston.

A closed-ranks methodology will mean less information will flow from Reliant Park, which has been one of the more media-friendly locales in the NFL.

A singular message, with the head coach setting the tone, also will be something new for the Texans. Whether he is discussing quarterbacks or linebackers or special-teamers who will never start, O'Brien will use the word "smart" more than any coach in the NFL, besides perhaps Belichick. It is a prerequisite for being an O'Brien-type player. That doesn't mean every player will be smart, but O'Brien will try to convince us they are.

Expect to hear players talk less and sound more like their head coach. In his media meetings thus far, O'Brien already has proved to be fluent in coachspeak, saying a lot but divulging little. Not that Kubiak was one to share secrets, but he often gave more information than needed and almost always tried to answer any question that was asked. He is a friendly sort.

O'Brien has a message to deliver and will deliver it regardless of the inquiry. He won't tell you much about his offense or defense. You'll see come game time.
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. . . you won't like Bill O'Brien for very long. Capers and Kubiak were off-the-cuff rambling chatterboxes compared to how OB will be running things.
BoB comes from the Bill Belichick school of media handling....and it shows. Both of these guys could talk for an hour and not really let slip anything of substance.

As long as he can coach like Belichick, I could care less what he says in his press conferences.
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BoB comes from the Bill Belichick school of media handling....and it shows. Both of these guys could talk for an hour and not really let slip anything of substance.

As long as he can coach like Belichick, I could care less what he says in his press conferences.
As long as he doesn't coach like Belicheat, I can go along with his charade before reporters which is required by the NFL. Long before Belicheat, the old saying that loose lips sink ships from WWII applied. I do not credit Belicheat with this concept. He simply adopted a good strategy which incorporates the older principle. I saw the same in Landry, so it wasn't new to the NFL.
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Default Re: Well, if you don't like coach-speak . . .

Not unexpected. In fact, I said as much a day or so ago in the "what kind of QB..." thread

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Remember, he's a graduate of the Bill Belichick School of CoachSpeak so I don't expect any earthshaking revelations from his pressers.


Not that I blame him. Why tip your hand in the press when you don't have to?

I do wonder how long he's gonna milk the "well, we're still evaluating the players.." schtick.


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As long as he doesn't coach like Belicheat, I can go along with his charade before reporters which is required by the NFL. Long before Belicheat, the old saying that loose lips sink ships from WWII applied. I do not credit Belicheat with this concept. He simply adopted a good strategy which incorporates the older principle. I saw the same in Landry, so it wasn't new to the NFL.
As long as he doesn't coach like arguably the best coach ever?
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As long as he doesn't coach like arguably the best coach ever?
Not even close.
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Not even close.
I fail to see who comes close given what B.B. has done in the salary cap era. Does he not hate the gays enough for you?
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Not even close.
Lol.

That's funny!

Needed a good laugh!
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As long as he doesn't coach like Belicheat, I can go along with his charade before reporters which is required by the NFL. Long before Belicheat, the old saying that loose lips sink ships from WWII applied. I do not credit Belicheat with this concept. He simply adopted a good strategy which incorporates the older principle. I saw the same in Landry, so it wasn't new to the NFL.
The thing that's new is the exposure.

Back in the day, no one paid much attention to the coach's press conferences unless they were in the playoffs. Nowadays with the 24/7 coverage of football, fans pour over every word someone says.

There were people on this board who didn't like that Kubiak was so close-mouthed and evasive about the team and strategy and injuries and whatnot. But that's the way coaches SHOULD be.
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The thing that's new is the exposure.

Back in the day, no one paid much attention to the coach's press conferences unless they were in the playoffs. Nowadays with the 24/7 coverage of football, fans pour over every word someone says.

There were people on this board who didn't like that Kubiak was so close-mouthed and evasive about the team and strategy and injuries and whatnot. But that's the way coaches SHOULD be.
Agreed.
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Default Re: Well, if you don't like coach-speak . . .

huh to Me BOB is starting off just like Kubes


He does do coach speak to the media

he brings in all his buddies to help him coach

he might do something kubes didn't do


so hey I can work wt schab or fix him they way Kubes his first year jus stuck with Carr


u think BOB his first year will just stick with Scahub
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As long as he doesn't coach like Belicheat...
classic - reminds me of the comments Billy made when he got to philly

I have to believe Marshall is making a joke

edit: after reading the rest of his comments, I realize that he is serious... even more hilarious than I imagined
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BoB comes from the Bill Belichick school of media handling....and it shows. Both of these guys could talk for an hour and not really let slip anything of substance.

As long as he can coach like Belichick, I could care less what he says in his press conferences.
Belichick has a parcells streak to him in that on days he feels like talking he will go beyond what people expect as answers and give detail, thoughtful responses. Now he does not feel like it that often, but as an example here is 'hoodie" talking about special teams.

http://www.patriots.com/news/article...2-bacb3fa8b551
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The real question remains.....will he tap his ring on the podium when a question is asked?
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The real question remains.....will he tap his ring on the podium when a question is asked?
I'm going with no. Doesn't appear to be a tapper. He may throw you a scorn, but no taps.
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The real question remains.....will he tap his ring on the podium when a question is asked?
Nice.

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Belichick has a parcells streak to him in that on days he feels like talking he will go beyond what people expect as answers and give detail, thoughtful responses. Now he does not feel like it that often, but as an example here is 'hoodie" talking about special teams.

http://www.patriots.com/news/article...2-bacb3fa8b551
Belichick, like Parcells and other great coaches, are teachers as much as anything else.

Sometimes, Belichick will open up and talk about facets of the game that can really educate folks (like the one you linked). These are the press conferences that I really enjoy. It's not about throwing guys under the bus or assigning blame, but rather breaking down plays, strategies, explanations of decisions, and even some football history. Belichick is brilliant that way. Every player that has played for him says the same thing, too. He opens their minds about the game beyond their position. They see big pictures of why things happen and how their roles fits into that overall picture.

It would be cool (to me) if O'Brien is that same type of coach. Deadpan on the stupid media stuff, but a teacher in other ways.
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As long as I hear more about O'brian then mcnair will be fine.. when an owner is the spotlight and talked about in the media (cough*Jones* cough) that is a franchise in trouble...the media never really mentions the owners of good franchises. Owner should never overshadow the coach in the media unless **** is wrong.
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As long as I hear more about O'brian then ChAir I will be fine.. when an owner is the spotlight and talked about in the media (cough*Jones* cough) that is a franchise in trouble...the media never really mentions the owners of good franchises. Owner should never overshadow the ouch in the media unless **** is wrong.
Yep. Someone said once: If the owner of your franchise is known outside of your city, you probably have a bad owner.

There are exceptions, of course, like Robert Kraft, but, the point is valid. And, actually, if you think about it, how many ordinary fans know who owns the Patriots? Probably not that many.
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As long as I hear more about O'brian then mcnair will be fine.. when an owner is the spotlight and talked about in the media (cough*Jones* cough) that is a franchise in trouble...the media never really mentions the owners of good franchises. Owner should never overshadow the coach in the media unless **** is wrong.
Didn't we just have a year of Debartola stories about the great owner of San Francisco? Does this mean their Superbowls were somehow tainted by an owner in the press?
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