Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft The future stars of the NFL

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2014   #1
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Kelvin Benjamin

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...-deep-wr-class

Is coming out, what are your thoughts, draft grade? Maybe with WR depth Texans should take WR per bpa somewhere in this years draft...
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #2
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
 
TexansSeminole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 27
Posts: 8,509
Rep Power: 66299 TexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by beerlover View Post
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...-deep-wr-class

Is coming out, what are your thoughts, draft grade? Maybe with WR depth Texans should take WR per bpa somewhere in this years draft...
He's still pretty raw for his age (23 in Feb), despite being only a RS sophomore. Late first round, maybe he creeps up into the middle.
TexansSeminole is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #3
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by TexansSeminole View Post
He's still pretty raw for his age, despite being only a RS sophomore. Late first round, maybe he creeps up into the middle.
what if, he is there #33?
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #4
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
 
TexansSeminole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 27
Posts: 8,509
Rep Power: 66299 TexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by beerlover View Post
what if, he is there #33?
Depends on who else is there, but I think he should be part of the conversation. WR isn't a huge need, but he has a chance to develop into a force.
TexansSeminole is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #5
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by TexansSeminole View Post
Depends on who else is there, but I think he should be part of the conversation. WR isn't a huge need, but he has a chance to develop into a force.
ya think? Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins & Kelvin Benjamin with Teddy Bridegwater @ QB.
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2014   #6
Marshall 
Subscribed Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,296
Rep Power: 44205 Marshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respectedMarshall is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by beerlover View Post
what if, he is there #33?
Not gonna happen. We have too many other needs and there's too much WR depth this year.

Of course this is an educated guess. You never know what they know that we don't.
Marshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #7
badboy
Site Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Clear Lake
Posts: 23,027
Rep Power: 141276 badboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Great find BL, I am shocked to see him come out tbh, maybe his age played a part. I think he would be great at # 33 but only if we have a trade giving us more picks. In my trade down mock, I choose a WR but in straight 1-1 & 2-1, I say no as we need too much.
__________________
I want to be able to recognize the difference between a "want" and a "need" and then I want to be satisfied with getting a need
badboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-11-2014   #8
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy View Post
Great find BL, I am shocked to see him come out tbh, maybe his age played a part. I think he would be great at # 33 but only if we have a trade giving us more picks. In my trade down mock, I choose a WR but in straight 1-1 & 2-1, I say no as we need too much.
In any trade down mock you risk too much, IMO (imagine the player you target will still be there, in this case the franchise QB) while in trading up into first or second your targeting a specific player who is there. Big difference.
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #9
76Texan
Hall of Fame
 
76Texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,500
Rep Power: 81730 76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Let just say that if I had to choose between Hopkins and Benjamin, I wouldn't know which guy I'd pick at 27.

It's hard not to take a play maker.
76Texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #10
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

This is more about projection. Late first early second that is a value play. Long term he is Calvin Johnson type of WR, yes/no? So how do you pass? Andre is not going to be here much longer, this deep WR class pushes him down futher than normal & while Hopkins flashes his own upside, strikes me more of as a solid #2 like he was @ Clemson behind Watkins. So you grab your future #1 & give him the opportunity to develop under Andre Johnson. Doesn't hurt to build chemistry with fellow rookie QB Teddy Bridgewater either!
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #11
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
 
WolverineFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,349
Rep Power: 81923 WolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respectedWolverineFan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by 76Texan View Post
Let just say that if I had to choose between Hopkins and Benjamin, I wouldn't know which guy I'd pick at 27.

It's hard not to take a play maker.
I love Benjamin's potential but, in that scenario, keep in mind that he is 2 years older than Hopkins and Nuk is already much more polished as a route runner and in the nuances of playing WR. Thus far, Benjamin has just been a big guy who can run fast. Then again, so was Calvin Johnson in college.
__________________
"Those who stay will be champions."

- The Immortal Bo
WolverineFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #12
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineFan View Post
I love Benjamin's potential but, in that scenario, keep in mind that he is 2 years older than Hopkins and Nuk is already much more polished as a route runner and in the nuances of playing WR. Thus far, Benjamin has just been a big guy who can run fast. Then again, so was Calvin Johnson in college.
nailed it as usual.
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #13
76Texan
Hall of Fame
 
76Texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,500
Rep Power: 81730 76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineFan View Post
I love Benjamin's potential but, in that scenario, keep in mind that he is 2 years older than Hopkins and Nuk is already much more polished as a route runner and in the nuances of playing WR. Thus far, Benjamin has just been a big guy who can run fast. Then again, so was Calvin Johnson in college.
I didn't know that Benjamin is two years older than Hopkins; even so, I'm liking Benjamin's potential better. That doesn't mean we can tell which one will eventually have a better NFL career.
I just prefer a really big target who's nearly as fast as the smaller guy and can run routes the way most big guys can't.
JMO, Benjamin has the better potential of becoming a force than Hopkins does.
His size just can't be ignored .
76Texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014   #14
Corrosion
Hall of Fame
 
Corrosion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Northwest Houston
Age: 46
Posts: 31,138
Rep Power: 174245 Corrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

I wouldn't complain about a WR at some point as a clear cut BPA .... but would really like to fill some holes at other spots as there are so many spots in need of help and we could have more depending upon who they resign of their FA's and who ends up being cut for cap purposes.

QB , RT , ILB , RB , CB & S all need help right now.

QB & RT are a given right now ....

Keo & McCain getting meaningful playing time ?

Tate gone Cushing & who ?!! (I did like Tarpinian tho)

DE , DT, TE & OG could have spots open.

Ninja , Mitchell ?? Do they get resigned ?!

OD & Wade Smith are huge questions going forward.


We also have FA to fill holes .... but that's an expensive route and considering the cap situation and the need to lock up a couple guys ... I'm just not sure that WR is an option in this draft as its one of the deeper positions on the team.
__________________



Hope is a poor mans disease.
Corrosion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2014   #15
Blake
MMQB
 
Blake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Spring
Section: 551
Posts: 10,779
Rep Power: 72046 Blake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

Quote:
Originally Posted by beerlover View Post
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...-deep-wr-class

Is coming out, what are your thoughts, draft grade? Maybe with WR depth Texans should take WR per bpa somewhere in this years draft...
He is impressive, that is for sure. Right now I see him as a late 1, early 2. People will think of megatron when they see this guy during the combine, although there is just something missing from Benjamin which keeps him from being a top 10 draft prospect.

I tend to think that our WR core is pretty talented. Maybe a late round guy to come in and compete.

AJ/Hopkins/Martin/Posey/Bonner and some other young guys.
Blake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2014   #16
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,349
Rep Power: 50265 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Kelvin Benjamin

just saw this, how ironic- Carolina Panthers
wide-receiver-kelvin-benjamin-of-the-florida-state
Draft Position: 29

Dream Fit: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

The Carolina Panthers must continue to surround Cam Newton with weapons. After a year in which Carolina boasted one of the best defenses in the NFL, it is time to shore up the offense. With Steve Smith in the twilight of his career and the emergence Brandon LaFell, the Panthers would do well to bolster the wide receiver corps.

Benjamin fits the bill perfectly here. His huge 6'5" frame would be a welcomed target for Newton. His big-play ability would also ease the burden of losing Smith once he decides to retire.

With other receivers such as Sammy Watkins and Mike Evans looking to go off the board early in the draft, Benjamin becomes the best fit for the Panthers at 29th overall.
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger