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Old 01-04-2014   #1
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Well, Wade Phillips won’t get the chance to be the Texans defensive coordinator next year. And none of the guys he worked with are hanging around either.

According to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports, new Texans coach Bill O’Brien met with the existing Texans staff and fired them all, and will name Romeo Crennel as his defensive coordinator.

The 66-year-old Crennel was out of football this season after being fired by the Chiefs with two years left on his contract. That will allow the Texans to stay with the 3-4 defense they’re already running.

The clean house sets the stage for the Texans staff to have a very Bostonian vibe, as O’Brien will tap into his base of former Patriots co-workers for help.
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I guess this means we are sticking with the 3-4
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I like that B'OB added a guy with a ton of coaching experience! A little disappointed that we didn't keep a few of our current coaches around though...they weren't all bad.
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I like that B'OB added a guy with a ton of coaching experience! A little disappointed that we didn't keep a few of our current coaches around though...they weren't all bad.
New regime. COMPLETELY NEW REGIME. Sure didn't take BO'B long to make that decision did it?

Not surprised at all.
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Son of a martha farkin' friend of O'Brien hire. We're doomed to mediocrity with our cheap ass owner and his good ol' boy ways.
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Son of a martha farkin' friend of O'Brien hire. We're doomed to mediocrity with our cheap ass owner and his good ol' boy ways.
Yup. Just trading one Good Ol' Boy network for another. The King is dead, long live the King!
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Son of a martha farkin' friend of O'Brien hire. We're doomed to mediocrity with our cheap ass owner and his good ol' boy ways.
Facetious much??!?!
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New regime. COMPLETELY NEW REGIME. Sure didn't take BO'B long to make that decision did it?

Not surprised at all.
yeah new regime why is Rick smith still here ................. didn't he help build this disaster 2-14 team
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I like that B'OB added a guy with a ton of coaching experience! A little disappointed that we didn't keep a few of our current coaches around though...they weren't all bad.
McNair wanted someone that was gonna make tough decisions, something Kubes never did, this was one of them.
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O'Brien was hired by the Patriots in 07, while Crennel was the head coach of the Browns in 07. So I don't believe they've ever coached together.
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Interesting to see who the position coaches will be
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O'Brien was hired by the Patriots in 07, while Crennel was the head coach of the Browns in 07. So I don't believe they've ever coached together.
Correct. Crennel left the Patriots after '04. He was the DC for all three SB winning teams.
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Didn't they coach together at NE? Couldn't remember.

What's the report on Crennel? I know he's been coaching for a long time and has been a HC at one point or another.

Someone break it down for us...
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Didn't they coach together at NE? Couldn't remember.

What's the report on Crennel? I know he's been coaching for a long time and has been a HC at one point or another.

Someone break it down for us...
Kubiak/Wade ish. Great DC, horrible HC. Players he coached love him.
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The Two-Gap

However you term it, it truly is a unique defensive style that stands in stark contrast to almost the entirety of other NFL defensive schemes, and fewer have promoted it more successfully than Crennel.

His style is termed the “two-gap 3-4″ defense. At its base, that means you have three lineman with their hands in the dirt, typically two defensive ends that are big and strong enough to take on offensive tackles and tall enough to deter passes by the quarterback in the pocket (think of Tyson Jackson’s prototypical 6’4″, 296 lbs frame), and a humongous, bulky nose tackle that is built for getting low, absorbing punishment and administering immediate push against a hopelessly outsized center (think of Jerrell Powe’s prototypical 6’2″, 331 lbs frame). Then you have four linebackers: two passrushers on the edge (one who is a more one-dimensional pocket assaulter, and the other who is a swiss army knife of abilities), and two in the middle (one who is more of a line of scrimmage attacker, and the other who is more coverage-oriented). This earns Crennel’s defense the “3-4″ moniker, for those who didn’t already know.

But roughly half the teams in the NFL play with a 3-4 arrangement. It’s Crennel’s two-gap approach is what truly sets this defense apart from every other style in the NFL.

From the Bears’ cover 2, to the Eagle’s wide 9, to the Texans’ one-gap, to the Patriots’ hybrid, to countless other 4-3 and 3-4 teams, the name of the game is very simple for the defensive line: get upfield. The players might line-up at different points along the defensive line. They might be bigger (3-4 nose tackles), smaller (cover 2 passrushers), ends, tackles, or rushbackers. But they all want to disrupt the pocket and get upfield.

Not so with the two-gap.

Think of this as your typical offensive line:

RT RG C LG LT
(C) (B) (A) (A) (B) (C)

This is a comprehensive listing of the “gaps” in an offensive line. The “A” gap is between the center and guard, the “B” gap is between the guard and tackle. Most defenses in the NFL tell their defensive lineman to shoot a gap, which would either penetrate the pocket or at least disrupt the offensive line’s blocking assignments. Some defenses give a defensive tackle the job of occupying blockers, or “two-gapping,” meaning they focus less on getting upfield, and focus more with minding two gaps and clogging the lanes, offensive lineman be damned.

This two-gap strategy asks every single one of its defensive lineman to do exactly that. It turns the traditional role of the defensive lineman from pocket invader to space occupying, gap eater. There’s a reason young bucks like Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe take a long time to adjust to it, the techniques involved in this are completely different than the simple “get up and go” of more attack-oriented defensive lines. (By my count, only four other teams in the NFL share this defensive style: Ravens, Jets, Dolphins, and now the Colts.)

The complexity of all of this aside, there is one thing needed to make this work. One thing needed to turn this defensive style, unique as it is, into an offense-wrecking machine:

The defensive linemen must occupy offensive linemen.

It’s that simple. It’s the first domino for the entire scheme to make sense. If these defensive linemen can force offensive lineman to double-team them, it frees up the linebackers behind them and to their flanks to make plays. If Glenn Dorsey and Jackson play their roles properly, Tamba Hali and Justin Houston are battling tight ends and fullbacks en route to the QB, rather than massive, athletic offensive tackles. If Poe can demand maximum attention in the interior of the line, it allows Derrick Johnson to flow to the ball freely. It therefore cuts down on the amount of time secondaries have to cover receivers. It allows the safeties to clamp down open spaces faster. The key to it all is that the defensive linemen must absorb multiple offensive linemen every play.
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There lies a fundamental flaw here: teams are starting to simply refuse doubling our defensive linemen. If that happens, neither of our starting ends (Dorsey and Jackson) have proven able to disengage and punish offenses for their lack of respect. Toribio’s ability to demand double teams has weakened considerably in light of his injury, and Dontari Poe still has miles to go before he can harness that ability.
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You can't just use Watt to take up space. Crennel's gonna have to modify his thinking.
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Pretty sure Watt and Smith (assuming we keep him) will do just fine commanding double teams.

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Pretty sure Watt and Smith (assuming we keep him) will do just fine commanding double teams.

Great read.
So we are going to pay Watt as the highest paid defensive player in the league to be a double team magnet?
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So we are going to pay Watt as the highest paid defensive player in the league to be a double team magnet?
He does that now - he is double teamed every play sometime triple teamed.
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