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Old 12-07-2013   #1
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Or they could try to pick up the best of both worlds. With the first overall pick in a draft where there's a true franchise quarterback available, the Texans are sure to field juicy trade offers reminiscent of the haul that the Rams received from Washington in the Robert Griffin III deal. Maybe Houston trades the first pick to the Rams for their two first-round picks and ends up with Clowney and, say, local star Johnny Manziel. The point is that the Texans have options. Part of rebuilding quickly is getting a really high draft pick at exactly the right time. The Texans appear to have pulled that off.
This scenario is particularly intriguing to me. I still feel strongly that the team should take the best QB available, but if you are somehow able to nab two top level players in one deal you do it. This draft is freaking loaded, Rick Smith better not mess it up because it shouldnt be that hard to retool given the players that will be available during your selections. I dont agree with the Clowney part, but any variety of multiple top 15 picks would work wonders.

I would even get uber aggressive and trade back into the late 1st round and get yet another guy, using picks from next years draft.
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Many would argue faulty logic on this piece because Bridgewater is a JAG.

If the league is convinced on Teddy though it has more merit, then again if Teddy is a franchise guy you take him and never look back.
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Many would argue faulty logic on this piece because Bridgewater is a JAG.

If the league is convinced on Teddy though it has more merit, then again if Teddy is a franchise guy you take him and never look back.
You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...
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You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...
Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.
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Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.
What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.
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What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.
Did you see his game last thursday?

Teddy is absolutely a franchise QB:

1) The guy strives to be a "coach on the field"
2) There's not a bad hair on his head
3) He runs a pro style offense at lville
4) Capable of reading defenses and making adjustments at the LOS
5) Makes ALL the throws
6) Throws his WR's open
7) Natural leader
8) Uncanny pocket awareness
9) Keeps his eyes downfield while side stepping pass rush
10) Makes plays when the play called breaks down
11) Goes through progressions
12) 4.5-4.6 speed
13) Pocket passer first
14) Ice water in his veins
15) Football junkie
16) Film junkie
17) Understands football
18) Great dude, Great citizen, Face of Franchise type player

I have studied him extensively over the past 1.5 years. He's the real deal. I cannot wait to see #5 Teddy Bridgewater in a Texans uniform.
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He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.
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Since the Florida game....

268/382 (70.2%) for 3523 yards (9.2 y/a) with 28 TD's and 4 INT's.

You can not like him because he doesn't blowout UH. That's fine. But don't throw stuff like regression against the wall hoping it will stick. That is just simply inaccurate.
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What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.
I sort of like Bridgewater, myself. But my daughter, who is not a member, wants me to post her opinion:

"Quarterback should be a high priority. But I have a couple of misgivings about Teddy.
1. Guys named Ted are so often unspeakably evil criminals.
2. Black quarterbacks in the NFL have usually been inconsistent."
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What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.
Regressed? Do u even watch college football. Just because the guy is smooth,not flashy,fundementally sound,mechanically on point,doesn't mean he's regressed. Even those who make the arguments against bridgewater,no one has ever said he's regressed.
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And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.
Is he? Someone is going to have to make that call in the FO.

If he is you draft him, if he is not you hope some team is convinced he is not.

That one decision will determine our next few years.
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Is he? Someone is going to have to make that call in the FO.

If he is you draft him, if he is not you hope some team is convinced he is not.

That one decision will determine our next few years.
Not having a franchise caliber QB has plagued our team for the last 12 years.

I'm willing to take a gamble. Although I do not see it as a gamble, but nothing is a "sure thing".
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Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.
most were shocked when Washington gave three firsts and a second for RG3 but they did. Cleveland defense is getting good but still need a QB and they missed out on RG3 so a deal is not out of question.
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most were shocked when Washington gave three firsts and a second for RG3 but they did. Cleveland defense is getting good but still need a QB and they missed out on RG3 so a deal is not out of question.
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You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...
Not sure why people keep saying this about the RGIII trade. The trade is not far off by the chart. Future picks are downgraded a round per year conventionally.
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Not sure why people keep saying this about the RGIII trade. The trade is not far off by the chart. Future picks are downgraded a round per year conventionally.
Fair enough. If someone is willing to make that type trade then you bite their arm off. This team is well more than just a QB shy of being good.
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Not sure why people keep saying this about the RGIII trade. The trade is not far off by the chart. Future picks are downgraded a round per year conventionally.
Mega trades involving multiple picks are very rare, so the so-called chart value is irrelevant. Teams willing to part with all this stuff are not that common unless the prospect is considered to be overused 'can't miss." I can't remember the last deal involving the 1st overall pick (Rivers/Eli maybe), but unless Bridgewater is rated higher than I think, while the best QB in this draft the chances of an RGIII are less than 10%, imo.
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Man, it's gonna be fun watching Teddy every Sunday.

1.1 Bridgewater
2.1 Best RT avail
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Man, it's gonna be fun watching Teddy every Sunday.

1.1 Bridgewater
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Hyping up Teddy like he is a can't miss franchise QB prospect.
IMO, he absolutely is a "can't miss, franchise QB".

I have no doubts about it.

Keep in mind I wanted us to draft Russell Wilson in the 1st round 2 years ago. I may not be a professional scout, but I put a lot of time in evaluating college QB's because I NEVER believed in Schaub.
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IMO, he absolutely is a "can't miss, franchise QB".

I have no doubts about it.

Keep in mind I wanted us to draft Russell Wilson in the 1st round 2 years ago.
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