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Old 12-03-2013   #1
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Two security guards working Sunday's Patriots-Texans game at Reliant Stadium say they were fired after taking a picture with quarterback Tom Brady following New England's 34-31 victory.

“When you are at your post and you're doing your job, you're not supposed to take pictures with anybody because your job is to secure that area,” Joel Williams told KHOU.com on Monday.

“I said, ‘Hey Tom Brady, good job, good game man.' He looked at me and smiled,” Williams said. “He was very polite, very nice guy, humble. Sometimes I see players and say hello, and they just keep walking.”

Brady and Williams took a photo together and that's when things took a turn for the worst.

“Immediately after I took the picture, I got ran down by a supervisor,” Williams said. “They didn't' really give a reason, they said you know you're wrong and you're fired."
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Wow, I don't see the big deal, but obviously security guard supervisor does.
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Wow, I don't see the big deal, but obviously security guard supervisor does.
Your job is security. Not becoming distracted is key to doing the job. It is a big deal.
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Default Re: Texans security guards fired for taking photo with Tom Brady

They were employees of Contemporary Services Corporation, not the Texans.

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“It is strictly against CSC policy for its employees to request photos or autographs from players,” CSC told KHOU 11 in a statement. “CSC stands by its decision to terminate the two employees who violated this policy.”
They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
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They were employees of Contemporary Services Corporation, not the Texans.



They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
Does the policy apply when you're off-the-clock? That'll be a big question either at their unemployment hearing, or for McNair to consider. (If he calls CSC, they'd capitulate)
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Does the policy apply when you're off-the-clock? That'll be a big question either at their unemployment hearing, or for McNair to consider. (If he calls CSC, they'd capitulate)
My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
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Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
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My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
ahhh, both good points. I don't have a dog in this hunt, so hope his picture with Brady was worth it.
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Was Schaub working the camera?
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They were employees of Contemporary Services Corporation, not the Texans.



They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.

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For his part, Williams says he didn't break any rules because he had finished his shift.
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Did they post the pics online? Why? If so, then that was dumb.
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Maybe the supervisors thought they were trading spy photos!
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Did they post the pics online? Why? If so, then that was dumb.
According to the article, they were fired on the spot. The pictures became public after the fact.



Guy in the picture said his shift was over.

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Guy in the picture said his shift was over...
Forgot to take his name tag off?
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My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
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I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.
Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
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I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.
There is usually a restriction until you're out of uniform, not just finished with a shift.
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There is usually a restriction until you're out of uniform, not just finished with a shift.
I take it that you did not bother to read the entire thread before replying to my initial post? You would have clearly seen my thought process come to the realization about company policy and ultimately having no problem with it.
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They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
Good luck to CSC.
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If the Texans had won the game he wouldn't have been fired.
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