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Old 11-18-2013   #1
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First Round: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M, 6050 310

Second Round: Will Sutton, NT, Arizona State, 6010 300

Third Round: AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6030 215

Fourth Round: Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia, 6050 258

Fifth Round: Michael Dyer, RB, Louisville, 5090 217

Sixth Round: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin, 5110 248

Seventh Round: Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6040 300


Even with trading down there is just no way to cover all holes on this roster but at least this would stop some of the bleeding with safe, right the ship picks if in fact it is possible for Kubiak to save his job @ this point?

Big upgrade to OL well as heart/middle of defense. QB to groom under Keenum, TE to replace Owen & RB to replace Tate.
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If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?
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If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?
McCarron has great numbers against the blitz. The problem is, he has played behind the best O-Line in the country for 4 years so even when he's blitzed he's rarely truly pressured.

It will be interesting to see how he responds in the NFL when that's not the case.
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I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
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I like it but I don't think McCarron last to Rd 3. With media draftniks maybe, NFL draft boards probably not. I would guess McCarron is closer to Rd 1 than Rd 3. Like Lynch in Rd 4 and Hopkins in Rd 7. IMHO better value with Manziel Rd 1 and Schreff Rd 2. As for NT easier to find better value in FA at reasonable cost.
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I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
Thanks Amigo,

It thought Mitchell had one of his best games but seemed like every time he made a play they rotated him out then nothing. Sutton is a better prospect coming out than Earl who was taken with high 3rd.

Like stated there are just more needs than picks even with a trade down plus have yet to identify a DB after priority needs are met, as BB states Texans can roll w/Kareem on the cheap for one more season.
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I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.
Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.
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who is your starting ILB and back ups next year?
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Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.
I also agree with BL and 65 as we should move Mitchell over to take Ninja's place and back him with Crick for at least one more year.
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Yep. Always take bpa. Now in the perfect world,bpa will fill a need also. I can't remember who,but I asked if Mike Evans is the highest rated player at 5,do you take him? My answer is yes and it has 0 to do with trying to trade andre,its just bpa. For all the crap millen took and he deserves it,he still took megatron despite taking roy williams and mike williams in previous drafts.
So if the best player available is a QB and you've drafted a QB in the first round for the past 3 years, do you still draft bpa?

Eventually you have to take bpa at a position of need or at least don't take a player in a position you have no need for.
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So if the best player available is a QB and you've drafted a QB in the first round for the past 3 years, do you still draft bpa?

Eventually you have to take bpa at a position of need or at least don't take a player in a position you have no need for.
Yep but you ain't gonna win that war with BPA only folks. For the Texans, BPA each round would probably hit a priority or at least strong need. There can always be exception to filling a need such as a franchise type player when you need maybe a safety.

Don't know about you but I like to evaluate players and when selecting one, be aware of what is coming up in next one to two rounds at least. For example, we need to replace ILB but why go Mosley when you can get a very good linebacker in second or third round? Why draft Matthews in first if you think Antonio Richardson in second can lock down RT for 10 years? I definitely want to get into position to go BPA most rounds but this off season ain't gonna be it. However, if things go well (and when do they ever?) we can set this roster up for success.

I think Texans fans will be agreeable with almost any plan if they know McNair is committed to building a strong team. 4-3 or 3-4, ZBS or power blocking; run oriented, pass first or a mixture; Cam Newton or RG3 type QB as long as it produces football that we enjoy watching and bragging about, fan will be fanatics. That is what we do.

Oh and this
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Yep but you ain't gonna win that war with BPA only folks. For the Texans, BPA each round would probably hit a priority or at least strong need. There can always be exception to filling a need such as a franchise type player when you need maybe a safety.

Don't know about you but I like to evaluate players and when selecting one, be aware of what is coming up in next one to two rounds at least. For example, we need to replace ILB but why go Mosley when you can get a very good linebacker in second or third round? Why draft Matthews in first if you think Antonio Richardson in second can lock down RT for 10 years? I definitely want to get into position to go BPA most rounds but this off season ain't gonna be it. However, if things go well (and when do they ever?) we can set this roster up for success.

I think Texans fans will be agreeable with almost any plan if they know McNair is committed to building a strong team. 4-3 or 3-4, ZBS or power blocking; run oriented, pass first or a mixture; Cam Newton or RG3 type QB as long as it produces football that we enjoy watching and bragging about, fan will be fanatics. That is what we do.

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I'm a fan of BPA and if say Watkins is BPA and I'm stacked at WR I would try to trade down and accumulate more draft picks. This helps turn the odds in your favor. I will say if you've got a player rated head and shoulders above everybody else on your board you should pick him. Example: Watt, DE wasn't a huge need but Wade took him because he was way higher rated than everybody else on the board.

I try to look at the draft in 2 yr cycles. The OL/DL was very strong last yr, LB's not so much. This yr LB's are strong. So I wouldn't reach for a LB last yr if it was a need, because I know I can get a better LB this yr and use the 2013 draft to fortify the OL/DL and fill in the gaps with FA's.

Hope you can understand my philosophy, this was a poorly written post. LOL
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I'm a fan of BPA and if say Watkins is BPA and I'm stacked at WR I would try to trade down and accumulate more draft picks. This helps turn the odds in your favor. I will say if you've got a player rated head and shoulders above everybody else on your board you should pick him. Example: Watt, DE wasn't a huge need but Wade took him because he was way higher rated than everybody else on the board.

I try to look at the draft in 2 yr cycles. The OL/DL was very strong last yr, LB's not so much. This yr LB's are strong. So I wouldn't reach for a LB last yr if it was a need, because I know I can get a better LB this yr and use the 2013 draft to fortify the OL/DL and fill in the gaps with FA's.

Hope you can understand my philosophy, this was a poorly written post. LOL
Not poorly written at all. Generally if we give a prospect 3 years to grade, influencing future contract offer, we should also look three years ahead in draft cycle. People who arn't into what we do in mock threads cannot fathome why or how we can discuss these topics year round & reason is the process of player evaluation is continuous, year round. Bottom line, in our own little way we are trying to help find answers to player personal questions.

If you are certain Watt is best player on board I would take him this year, next year & the year after that. Imagine a front line with three JJ's? But seriously, odds of BPA being same position in consecutive seasons rare, so there shouldn't be any conflict. Nobody cares or even remembers where you selected a player only that he works out & fills a need on Texans so they can improve.
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I agree with both you guys, draft your BPA then use FA to fill needs/cover gaps
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Nobody cares or even remembers where you selected a player only that he works out & fills a need on Texans so they can improve.
That is a demonstrably false statement. Only about a million comments were made on Mario alone with qualifiers such as "for a #1 pick." Good and bad statements are made like OD being a great TE especially for a 4th round pick. People compare performance to draft place constantly.
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