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Old 11-17-2013   #1
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Default Firing an NFL coach in midseason - it's likely to happen in 2013

Interesting piece about firing head coaches in midseason that ran on nfl.com a year ago.

It's happened 22 times from 2000 through 2012. In only three years - 2002, '06 and '12 - were there no firings. And in two seasons, 2010 and '11, it happened seven times. So, obviously, these days owners are less reluctant to pull the plug:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...decisionmakers

Given all this, and that no coaches were fired during last season, the law of averages is that it will happen at least once this year. And probably in Houston, Atlanta or Minnesota. Winning two straight might save Schiano in Tampa, and being a first-year coach will get Bradley a pass in Jacksonville - even if he loses to the Texans next week.

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Why not leave the door open for the new regime and give them a early start



But who is out there is the new regime even out there are do we waste 6 weeks on Scrub coaches

I wish the new regime was already rdy to give them a 6 week head start plus 2 months of playoffs


But if kubes goes I think Rick smith needs to go has well we need to hit the reset Button
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But if kubes goes I think Rick smith needs to go has well we need to hit the reset Button
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Default Re: Firing an NFL coach in midseason - it's likely to happen in 2013

If a head coach gets fired midseason teams usually promote an interim guy from the staff. The firing can also spark a little resurgence and almost 2 out of 5 interim guys keep the job.

If Kubiak gets fired before the end of the year Phillips takes over.

I don't want a 2014 with him leading us. Wait until January & get an entire new FO and coaching staff.
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If a head coach gets fired midseason teams usually promote an interim guy from the staff. The firing can also spark a little resurgence and almost 2 out of 5 interim guys keep the job.

If Kubiak gets fired before the end of the year Phillips takes over.

I don't want a 2014 with him leading us.
Wait until January & get an entire new FO and coaching staff.
I don't want Phillips either.
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Doubtful. Kubiak's seat wasn't hot going into the season. Despite the FO's frustration with him this year, they have too much respect for him to not give him a dignified exit. The only way he gets fired mid season is if the players give up on him, and that's also doubtful since they love him. The midseason stroke also reduces the odds.
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Does it really matter? Firing midseason vs after the season doesn't seem to have much impact. It's just easier to clean house after season is over.
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Cowher is going to probably want full control to come out of retirement. I don't like that idea because he has never made personnel decisions before.
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the only thing firing gary does now is send a message to the team and show potential head coaches, were available

but you have to stand strong by not keeping the interim coach no matter what happens
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I'm probably in the minority, but I think suffering the stroke makes it easier to let Kubiak go.

McNair can say it was a "mutual decision" and "will allow Gary to focus on regaining his full health." Something like that.

I think that's how it'll happen, and after today's game will happen before the season ends. Like this week or next.
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I don't want Wade to be the next coach either. I think if that happens there is a chance we keep the same offensive staff, and that does nothing to fix the problems on this team.

I also want Rick Smith gone too. I think hiring a real GM and letting him hire a head coach to implement his philosophy if the way we need to go moving forward.
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If they pull the trigger now and avoid any dithering around then maybe they can find someone new as soon as the season is over.

Do not want Wade. He's failed as a head coach multiple times and there really isn't any reason to believe this team would be any better.
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Not sure how 16 teams having done it over a 13 year time period translates to likely.

Why do it?
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I'm probably in the minority, but I think suffering the stroke makes it easier to let Kubiak go.

McNair can say it was a "mutual decision" and "will allow Gary to focus on regaining his full health." Something like that.

I think that's how it'll happen, and after today's game will happen before the season ends. Like this week or next.
I think this is right on.

I think it is WAY out of character for McNair to fire midseason, but it would also not surprise me to wake up tomorrow and find out it happened.

This year, and Kubiak's game today were that bad.
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I'm probably in the minority, but I think suffering the stroke makes it easier to let Kubiak go.

McNair can say it was a "mutual decision" and "will allow Gary to focus on regaining his full health." Something like that.

I think that's how it'll happen, and after today's game will happen before the season ends. Like this week or next.
I predict it won't happen during the season. With our luck, it might not happen at all. Or they hire Wade Phillips, almost as bad.
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I can see why they might go the Wade Phillips route cuz his dad and kinda him are so loved in HOuston
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I can see why they might go the Wade Phillips route cuz his dad and kinda him are so loved in HOuston
Could be the WORST THING EVER. Unless they hire some young hotshot to be OC

Wade would probably hire his son...
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