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Dave Toub, ST coach with KC. This guy is going to be another Harbaugh.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/8...ams-highlights
Hey ... if y'all want a special teams coach , good , Bob has a favorite in Joe Marciano . He's a great face of the franchise kinda like another #8 .




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My number 1 GM prospect would be:

Eric DeCosta Ozzie Newsome's long time protege
I like that. Newsome has done wonders for Baltimore. Maybe he could bring a scout or two with him.

I like Reed as a secondary coach. Let Ed coach up the youngsters.

We need a fresh offensive system, Garys has been figured out and exposed. Not sure who the next OC needs to be, but they need to bring something fresh to the table, and not conservative.

Wades defense has also been figured out, and puts too much stock in the blitz. We need to get better at applying pressure with four up front, and controlling the field in coverage. We need to bring in a defensive scheme that is cutting edge, and not the same ol same ol.

ST needs to be completely re-vamped. Bring in someone who is shining at the college level.
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Clear a couple things up first:

Shaw won't be leaving Stanford.
Lovie Smith is not a good coach
Gruden isn't leaving MNF

Now, some other prospects mentioned:

Tony Dungy may be the most overrated coach in NFL history (Anyone could have done what he did with Peyton. In fact, a really good coach would have won many more titles). Just see what Jim Caldwell did with Peyton (14-2) and without.

Rex Ryan isn't getting fired by the Jets - he has done a phenomenal job this year. He's weird, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Tony Dungy also built the defense that Gruden won his SB with...I feel safe in assuming he has an eye for defensive talent..especially when you consider how good his defenses were in Indy.


I'd like to see David Shaw or Obrien from Penn State...
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Dungy has categorically said he is done with coaching, kaput, finished, never to go back. Enjoying his life after coaching to much to ever go back.
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You need a good GM with an eye for talent no matter who you hire. I don't like a coach having total control or the final say on personnel decisions. It just gives them more things to worry about and its hard enough to coach without having to find players too.
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You need a good GM with an eye for talent no matter who you hire. I don't like a coach having total control or the final say on personnel decisions. It just gives them more things to worry about and its hard enough to coach without having to find players too.
Unless someone like Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells walks through the door.
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You call Cowher, without a doubt. Lovie was well loved up here, even with the firing. Good man, runs great Ds. His issue was working with a GM to hire a competent O Coordinator. Zimmer needs a shot at some point. I'm just a little worried why he hasn't gotten one so far. Not sure if his style wears on people.

LZ threw this out today. I haven't watched his work as much as others so no real opinion here.


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You call Cowher, without a doubt. Lovie was well loved up here, even with the firing. Good man, runs great Ds. His issue was working with a GM to hire a competent O Coordinator. Zimmer needs a shot at some point. I'm just a little worried why he hasn't gotten one so far. Not sure if his style wears on people.

LZ threw this out today. I haven't watched his work as much as others so no real opinion here.
Makes a lot of sense. Give Gary his final year contract while lightening his load by bringing back Kyle. Rick Smith will remain the GM. Soild call.
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We already had little Shanny (28 years old) here and groomed him for daddy to take to Washington as his oc. He isn't going to come back and do the same job he is already doing for his dad. I sure wouldn't want him as head coach here. He is way to inexperienced for that job. I think we need to go in a different direction.
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I would be happy with either Lovie Smith or Kevin Sumlin.
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Wonder what Rob Ryan could do with our defensive players?
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I dont know who is the commentator with Kalu but he just called it. Said everything with Case and Kubiak was smoke and mirrors. Nice to hear the media finally call it.

I wonder if Kubiak called the best plays for Case...

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I dont know who is the commentator with Kalu but he just called it. Said everything with Case and Kubiak was smoke and mirrors. Nice to hear the media finally call it.

I wonder if Kubiak called the best plays for Case...

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Kubiak should be fired tonight and Dennison promoted to interim HC for the remainder of the season. I would prefer Sumlin replace him and build a spread offense around Keenum like he did at UofH, but that's a pipe dream.
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Kubiak should be fired tonight and Dennison promoted to interim HC for the remainder of the season. I would prefer Sumlin replace him and build a spread offense around Keenum like he did at UofH, but that's a pipe dream.
I agree with the Kubiak being fired tonight. I agree Dennison should be interim HC. Definitely not Wade. 28 points to a rookie undrafted free agent in his first start ever..... pfft.

I don't care about Keenum. Most everybody is looking past his faults but they're getting bigger & bigger to me. I can't see passing on a 1st round QB if Case can't move the ball on the Raiders. 22nd against the pass. & Ben Tate ran pretty well against the 7th ranked run defense.
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I agree with the Kubiak being fired tonight. I agree Dennison should be interim HC. Definitely not Wade. 28 points to a rookie undrafted free agent in his first start ever..... pfft.

I don't care about Keenum. Most everybody is looking past his faults but they're getting bigger & bigger to me. I can't see passing on a 1st round QB if Case can't move the ball on the Raiders. 22nd against the pass. & Ben Tate ran pretty well against the 7th ranked run defense.
They either need to draft Jake Matthews, or get a pass rusher next to Watt. The draft is deep with QBs. Or possibly trade down for more picks.
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Kubiak should be getting his walking papers right now.
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A wholesale change of players and letting the front office and the coaching staff remain intact is treating the symptoms and ignoring the disease. This team is lost in the FOG (Friends of Geary).

Geary calls the plays, the QB's cannot audible out unless it is to one of the other called plays. The play calling has been childish at best, which is why Case's best plays have been the product of him running for his life and improvising with the WR's (ask AJ) and the tight ends. On the other hand, Schaub cannot escape so he relies on dumping his famous 2 yd pass - either near one of our players or to one of theirs.

Kubiak's famed offense has been figured out, game-planned and every team is ready for it. To say it isn't is to ignore the fact that the Run and Shoot was once all the rage, as was the famed Dallas Flex-Defense. Gimmicks get figured out.

Time has come to get this team out of the FOG. Cut Geary, the special teams coach and the O-Line coach on Monday. Make Wade the interim head HC, Kollar the DC and move Dorrell to OC. Reorganize the position staff to fill out the gaps. Put Rick Smith and everyone left that they are on notice - they are coaching for their (and Rick's) jobs. The new special teams coach, the new OC and new DC will be responsible for their units (Wade will not DC) and everyone will be held responsible for their units.

Finish cleaning out the players that are lost in the FOG. Bench Schaub and Frig Newton. Tell the Kicker his next miss will be his last. If they pout, put them on the inactive list and activate someone that knows no one owes them a position (Keenum starts, Yates over Schaub).

This season can build toward the draft and next year, or it can suck and create a toxic and disorganized situation at draft time.
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