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Old 11-05-2013   #1
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Default Arian Foster (season ending back surgery)

I haven't heard much chatter about Foster the past couple days, but I have to say my opinion of him has fallen. The past two games he has taken himself out of the game after just four carries and one carry, respectively. I'm sure his hamstring, back, and calf are all really sore, but if they're that bad, he should never have taken an active roster spot. Meanwhile, Tate is out there gutting it up with broken ribs.

People used to ding Mario by saying he didn't try enough. But he went out there and played in the trenches every down against the largest guys on the field with all sorts of injuries. Hell, he played an entire season with plantar fasciitis, which I know personally leaves you crippled. He may not have played particularly well with those maladies, but he went out there.

And what was the general consensus when Colt McCoy pulled himself out of the national championship game? It wasn't that he was a tough gamer, I can tell you that.
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In my personal experience, back and leg injuries are way more movement limiting than cracked ribs.
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Can I short his stock?

...any put options out there?

To me, it just feels like he's given up. He's stopped taking football seriously, and he's more invested in his career as a celebrity.
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Can I short his stock?

...any put options out there?

To me, it just feels like he's given up. He's stopped taking football seriously, and he's more invested in his career as a celebrity.
Actually, you can, kind of.


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I think like others who have come back without healing it has led to further injury and this includes Foster. I would think it is difficult to return in 2 weeks from hamstring and that could have led to back injury. I think I read/heard somewhere that back was hurt "again". Of so, not sure how this is player's fault?
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As I recall Dr CND predicted compensating injuries for Arian. From about the 2nd half of the 2nd game he looked like his old self, but then injuries again...
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I don't know.. leg muscles and the back are pretty important to a RBs ability to play. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt right now.
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Coach ran him into the ground last year.
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I don't know.. leg muscles and the back are pretty important to a RBs ability to play. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt right now.
Yup, we pretty much have to. IIRC, he'd have a substantial cap hit if he was cut.

I don't really question his heart. He was fighting his butt off before the injuries. Heck, he was the only one kickin butt during the Rams game. He was still going 100% even after the Rams put the game away in the 3rd. To me, that shows heart.

I can see doggin on players like Sharpton, but Foster? Not yet, not me anyway
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I don't know.. leg muscles and the back are pretty important to a RBs ability to play. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt right now.
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As I recall Dr CND predicted compensating injuries for Arian. From about the 2nd half of the 2nd game he looked like his old self, but then injuries again...
The Texans rushed him back, just like they did with Newton/B.Williams/W.Smith/D.Brown/Posey etc....

Then you look at teams like the Seahawks Okung/Giacommini have turf toe/knee injuries, but Carroll lets them sit out until they're healthy. The Texans rush Newton back coming off petallar surgery so he can play in a PRE=SEASON game. Brown and Okung got turf toe the same week.

Is it Gary that pushes the Dr.'s and training staff to get these guys on the field before they're ready? Or does the Texans medcical staff reek of incompetence? I believe it's a combination of both. Which is why this team needs a total house cleaning. Starting with Rick/Gary/Olson/Medical staff and ending with the janitors.
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The Texans rushed him back, just like they did with Newton/B.Williams/W.Smith/D.Brown/Posey etc....

Then you look at teams like the Seahawks Okung/Giacommini have turf toe/knee injuries, but Carroll lets them sit out until they're healthy. The Texans rush Newton back coming off petallar surgery so he can play in a PRE=SEASON game. Brown and Okung got turf toe the same week.

Is it Gary that pushes the Dr.'s and training staff to get these guys on the field before they're ready? Or does the Texans medcical staff reek of incompetence? I believe it's a combination of both. Which is why this team needs a total house cleaning. Starting with Rick/Gary/Olson/Medical staff and ending with the janitors.
I couldn't have said it better....only thing I have to add is I said The Texans made a mistake extending Foster's contract as early as they did. I have always thought they should've tendered him instead, saving over $4 million. Another poor business decision.
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I'm torn on this one, as I'm giving Arian the benefit of the doubt here. If he had busted ribs, then I'd expect him to get the shot like Tate did and be out there.

But with Arian and this hamstring of his . . I mentioned to my wife when they announced that he was playing, "Why is he even suiting up so soon, he's just going to tweak it again". They said it was his back this time, but I'm sure it's hammy related.

He did something bad to his hamstring in a workout before training camp, in which I get the feeling needs surgical correction. They're 2-6. Put him on IR and get it done.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this recent run of events, but I do know that I've never been really trusting of him overall. I always thought he had too much weirdo/philosophical douche/etc in him, somewhat similar to what happened to Ricky Williams' running away from football.

I hope it's just injuries, but I've always had this feeling about him.
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I think it's mostly injuries that are holding him back, and it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who looks at the history of RBs with 400+ touches in their previous year. At this point, I would give Arian at least 4 weeks off, and figure out what we have in guys like Dennis Johnson, who could be our #2 RB next year. I think a 1-2 punch of Foster and Johnson could be enough for the 2014 Texans, and it could reduce our RB priority in the draft. Get Dennis up to speed on pass protections, and he could be a nice, cheap #2.
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This is the same guy who was visibly upset about being taken out of the game earlier this year.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ing-subbed-out

I'd rather have him take himself out of a game than pretend he's healthy and only get 2 yards per carry.
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I think it's mostly injuries that are holding him back, and it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who looks at the history of RBs with 400+ touches in their previous year. At this point, I would give Arian at least 4 weeks off, and figure out what we have in guys like Dennis Johnson, who could be our #2 RB next year. I think a 1-2 punch of Foster and Johnson could be enough for the 2014 Texans, and it could reduce our RB priority in the draft. Get Dennis up to speed on pass protections, and he could be a nice, cheap #2.
Now, let's see. Why was this guy cut in TC? And nobody picked him up? Oh yeah, that's right! He couldn't hang on to the rock to save his life. The fact that he actually didn't cough it up even once against the Colts was amazing in itself.
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I haven't heard much chatter about Foster the past couple days, but I have to say my opinion of him has fallen. The past two games he has taken himself out of the game after just four carries and one carry, respectively. I'm sure his hamstring, back, and calf are all really sore, but if they're that bad, he should never have taken an active roster spot. Meanwhile, Tate is out there gutting it up with broken ribs.

People used to ding Mario by saying he didn't try enough. But he went out there and played in the trenches every down against the largest guys on the field with all sorts of injuries. Hell, he played an entire season with plantar fasciitis, which I know personally leaves you crippled. He may not have played particularly well with those maladies, but he went out there.

And what was the general consensus when Colt McCoy pulled himself out of the national championship game? It wasn't that he was a tough gamer, I can tell you that.
That's about the only thing in that post I agree with. Foster shouldn't be out there. Doc said during preseason that Foster would have issues before the year was out. Doc was right, as usual.

And for the record, Tate probably ought to sit out a few weeks and heal too.

Like others have said, let's see what these younguns can do.
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