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Old 10-21-2013   #1
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Entering the Chiefs' 17-16 win over the Texans on Sunday, it seemed reasonable to think Houston's second-year quarterback would be in for a long day.
Not only would Case Keenum, a man who went undrafted in 2012 due to his perceived lack of arm strength and mobility, be making his first career start on the road, he would be doing it at a rejuvenated Arrowhead Stadium, against the NFL's most ferocious pass rush.

But by the end of the day, even though the Texans lost, let's just say Keenum had made it clear he wasn't the overwhelmed, wide-eyed kid they expected him to be.

“The guy can definitely move around back there, buy some time for his receivers to get open and he has the arm strength to make the big play down the field,” said Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith. “I found that out the hard way.”
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Safety Quintin Demps, who played with Keenum last season in Houston, wasn't necessarily surprised by Keenum's strong day. Keenum, 25, was a scout team quarterback last season as he learned Houston's offense under coach Gary Kubiak, whom Demps regards as one of the league's best quarterback gurus.

Demps remembers seeing Keenum make enough plays against the first-string defense to think he should have been drafted.

“I told y'all Keenum can play,” Demps said. “He's gonna be good ... he's got good composure. He's like a fourth-year guy as a rookie. That's very rare.”

At the end of the day, the combination of the Chiefs' ferocious defense and Arrowhead Stadium won out, as Keenum ended up leading his team to only one first down (while taking four sacks) in the crucial fourth quarter.

But in the process, Keenum still won the respect of the Chiefs, at least three of whom mentioned his “promising future” when discussing his day afterward.

“He definitely came in and played better than I thought he would,” Smith said. “He showed a lot of poise and confidence back there.”

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The fact that there was a chance he could have been on the PS, how do you bring Kubiak back next year? Icing on the cake for the countless dumb stuff Kubiak has done. The bane of my enjoyment for the Texans.
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The fact that there was a chance he could have been on the PS, how do you bring Kubiak back next year? Icing on the cake for the countless dumb stuff Kubiak has done. The bane of my enjoyment for the Texans.
31 other teams didn't draft Keenum just like 31 other teams didn't draft Arian Foster, but Kubiak managed to get them both signed and on his PS, brought them along/developed them, and eventually got them both on the field and playing in this league.
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I stand by my statement. They gave Schaub a more than fair contract when you can get equal or better play from your third stringer.

This organization does not make good decisions and I'm sure I don't have to explain.
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i mean...unless they don't like you personally for whatever reason, no other player is gonna say anything bad about another player...it's comical people keep bringing in these player quotes like they mean something.
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i mean...unless they don't like you personally for whatever reason, no other player is gonna say anything bad about another player...it's comical people keep bringing in these player quotes like they mean something.
What's comical is people that keep writing them off like they don't mean anything and for what reason? I know people in KC, they want to trade Alex Smith for Keenum. What people are saying isn't just lip service, they mean something.
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I stand by my statement. They gave Schaub a more than fair contract when you can get equal or better play from your third stringer.

This organization does not make good decisions and I'm sure I don't have to explain.
I'm thinking that Keenum just started coming into his own this year (not during his rookie year in 2012), which meant Schaub had already been resigned to his new contract. Am I right about that ?
Now resigning Schaub in 2012, to me that's a different issue and something that we might both second-guess a lot especially after Matt's performances in recent games.
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The fact that there was a chance he could have been on the PS, how do you bring Kubiak back next year? Icing on the cake for the countless dumb stuff Kubiak has done. The bane of my enjoyment for the Texans.
What makes you think Kubiak was going to waive him this season? Everything I've seen since they extended Schaub says they believed Keenum to be our starting QB in 2014.

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I stand by my statement. They gave Schaub a more than fair contract when you can get equal or better play from your third stringer.

This organization does not make good decisions and I'm sure I don't have to explain.
There are 7 QBs with $100M contracts. None of them are Matt Schaub. He's making good money as a starter & before 2013, he was a good starter.

I liked the QB plan for this season. Given that Matt Schaub had an offseason to get healthy I thought it was safe to assume we'd get somewhere around 10 games before his LisFranc would have been an issue.... 8 at the least. Keenum obviously passed whatever test there was, so I thought the plan was to get him ready to be the #2 around the bye week. Until then, Tj is the #2.

If Matt's foot becomes a problem after week 8-10..... Keenum comes in finishes off the season & starts 2014 as the starter. Matt most likely felt he was being pushed all along & that's what led to his performance to date.
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31 other teams didn't draft Keenum just like 31 other teams didn't draft Arian Foster, but Kubiak managed to get them both signed and on his PS, brought them along/developed them, and eventually got them both on the field and playing in this league.
When it comes to decision making as to whom should start as who is the best option like Arian Foster Case Keenum should have been starting if not week one definitely after the Seattle game. Kubiak is wasting another year by making dumb decisions.
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When it comes to decision making as to whom should start as who is the best option like Arian Foster Case Keenum should have been starting if not week one definitely after the Seattle game. Kubiak is wasting another year by making dumb decisions.
Kubiak excels at making dumb decisions.
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The fact that there was a chance he could have been on the PS, how do you bring Kubiak back next year? Icing on the cake for the countless dumb stuff Kubiak has done. The bane of my enjoyment for the Texans.
If you can point us to any post you made prior to the 2012 draft stating your belief in Keenum, and that he should've been drafted, then you'll have a modicum of clout. Otherwise...
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If you can point us to any post you made prior to the 2012 draft stating your belief in Keenum, and that he should've been drafted, then you'll have a modicum of clout. Otherwise...
Plenty of people here thought he was a legitimate NFL prospect. Click Search, keyword Keenum, filter a year and older. Put in a user name if you like. Scroll to the bottom of the results.

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If you can point us to any post you made prior to the 2012 draft stating your belief in Keenum, and that he should've been drafted, then you'll have a modicum of clout. Otherwise...
I called it even better than Keenum.

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I wish we would pick up Russell Wilson QB from Wisconsin late in the draft. The kid seems smart and is very mobile while throwing strong. I think he'll be like Brees. Keep Schaub one more year, then let TJ and Russell duel it out.
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game recognize game.

its quite refreshing to see in a loss your QB praised as opposed to schaub who gets called out for being soft by other nfl players.
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Big deal; I wanted the Texans to take both Wilson and Keenum so that one can be the insurance policy for the other in case of injury.
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Big deal; I wanted the Texans to take both Wilson and Keenum so that one can be the insurance policy for the other in case of injury.
Well, don't hold out on us. Lay it out. I just wanted to prove that Schaub could have been easily replaced instead of re-signing him. I was right on the money.
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I was went into Sunday's game relatively indifferent. Keenam impressed me and it LOOKED like he impressed the Chiefs. After the two minute warning they could shoved the ball down our throats and put more points on the board, but instead they elected to run out the clock and beat a team by a point whom they were predicted to obliterate. My hat is off to both young Mr. Keenam for facing a hell of a football team and not blinking and to Coach Andy Reed for being a class act.
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I was went into Sunday's game relatively indifferent. Keenam impressed me and it LOOKED like he impressed the Chiefs. After the two minute warning they could shoved the ball down our throats and put more points on the board, but instead they elected to run out the clock and beat a team by a point whom they were predicted to obliterate. My hat is off to both young Mr. Keenam for facing a hell of a football team and not blinking and to Coach Andy Reed for being a class act.
I agree that Andy Reid isn't the type to run up the score, but they also had an obvious strategic reason not to score again. If they did, we would get the ball back down only 8.
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I don't want to start hearing this isht, again. It's what good teams say about bad teams.
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I don't want to start hearing this isht, again. It's what good teams say about bad teams.
This is a different circumstance. The Chiefs players gave Keenum no respect (Basically just loading up against the run and daring him to beat him) and he was making them pay for it. Once our running game fizzled out due to injuries it was really clear that the O-line couldn't handle their monster pass rush and that was all she really wrote.

I think if you continue to see losses and this kind of stuff comes out then yeah you can go back to hankhill mode.
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