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Old 10-20-2013   #1
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Default Who deserves more blame for the loss

I think the answer is obvious. No QB has much of a chance so long as Newton and Smith are starters..
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nahh I think the QB cant take some blame why not I say the hole teams is to blame
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Where is the Kubiak option?
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The refs
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Derek newton, the guy is a joke and should be let go
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

The options are rather limited. I chose the o-line simply because coaching wasn't an option.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

How about Kansas City? There is a reason they are 7-0.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

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Where is the Kubiak option?
EXACTLY 1st and goal at one RUN RUN PASS
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

How about whole brain trust OwnerGM/Coaches
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Keenum would probably be near the bottom on the list of people I blame for the loss.

O-line and defense would be at the top...
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

really the blame was they couldn't run the ball anymore and everyoned was gettin f'd up
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

In reality i blame Kubiak for the Loss, the Pistol is ok to run every now and then, but it does not play to our strengths plus it puts the RB even further behind the LOS, and that doesnt help especially when tate is all you have.

Keenum can work out of center, he did it all pre season and looked fine. I think Kubiak may have been trying to play to Keenums strengths to much that he took away from what we do well.

Will say it didnt help we had no healthy RBs, were Missing O.D and we have Derek Letembye over there on the right side of the line, still though Kubiak went a little overboard trying to make this offense like the UH offense, when i think Keenum can run what we usually run and be just fine.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Even though the score doesn't indicate it,but the defense is bad again. I mean ninja,mitchell,reed,mayes,sharpton,mccain are killing the team. There is a reason besides talent why hali and houston can get pressure from the outside. Poe,devito,and jackson,but mostly poe controls the middles which means the qb can't step up. So now the olbs got a 2 way go no matter how mobile the qb is. Of course the texans missed it again with john jenkins,hankins,williams, and a slew of other big nts sitting there. Hell, kwame geathers who backed up jenkins at georgia went undrafted but is playing well. If you get bigger on the line,then the lbs can just scrape and clean up plays vs having to always get of full blocks and make plays.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

There is one person to blame that Kubiak poor play calling and bad moves.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Keenum is definitely the best quarterback on the team and for this current team. The o line will be better against other teams that are not as great at blitzing as Kansas City. Still need to have Keenum at qb to help the offense extend the plays and the defense get enough rest.
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Where is the Kubiak option?
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Jesus people, no one is blaming Keenum for the loss. Saying that he played ok is not saying that we should take him out back and shot.
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Default Re: Who deserves more blame for the loss

Gary Kubiak.

-never adjusted to the constant blitzing by the defense. No screen pass, no short hot routes, no draw plays, and totally went away from our regular play calling. Those were not the same plays that schaub was using.

-not activating cierre woods

-conservative play calling was evident throughout the game. The baffling conservative call right before the half, running then suddenly throwing. Mind boggling.

Defense

-Joe Mays and Ed Reed is killing us. Ed Reed missing tackles, penalties, joe mays just looks lost out there.

-couldnt stop the chiefs even though they were on 3rd and long. No inside presence. It was never addressed in the draft. Instead they burn picks on two outside linebackers that we didnt need. We needed ILBs and DT help but was never addressed.

Special teams

-what is it gonna take to fire Joe Marciano? Horrible coverage.
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Gary Kubiak.

-never adjusted to the constant blitzing by the defense. No screen pass, no short hot routes, no draw plays, and totally went away from our regular play calling. Those were not the same plays that schaub was using.

-not activating cierre woods

-conservative play calling was evident throughout the game. The baffling conservative call right before the half, running then suddenly throwing. Mind boggling.

Defense

-Joe Mays and Ed Reed is killing us. Ed Reed missing tackles, penalties, joe mays just looks lost out there.

-couldnt stop the chiefs even though they were on 3rd and long. No inside presence. It was never addressed in the draft. Instead they burn picks on two outside linebackers that we didnt need. We needed ILBs and DT help but was never addressed.

Special teams

-what is it gonna take to fire Joe Marciano? Horrible coverage.
Pretty good post. AT least you didn't mention audibles.

Joe Mays has looked pretty OK to me. I don't understand the hate some have for him.

I don't think Kubiak was overly conservative. I think he made calls we aren't used to based on Case's strengths. They are much different than Schaub's because they include a strong arm, mobility and a desire to remain upright instead of assuming the fetal position at the slightest hint of pressure. That explains why the play calls were different.

The reason they didn't call more screens or draws is because Tate was/is very banged up (broken ribs?) and Foster was out with a hammy. WR screens can very easily become a pick 6 in tight man coverage, like KC played all day.

Wade/players aren't doing a very good job of disguising coverages/blitzes. The D, as a whole, are pretty bad right now. There appears to be no option but Watt for a consistent pass rush and the constant blitzing is leaving gaping holes for RB's that can reach the 2nd level.

Ed Reed needs a clipboard in his hand and a ball cap on his head. If we're going to pay him for his experience, let it be by going over film and sideline picks with Keo(I can't believe I typed that) and DJ. Reed is a complete liability on the field.

Marciano should be ran out of Texas on a rail. He's outlived his contributions by a decade or so. The towel boy could do as much as he's doing.
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Of course ATX is the only person to vote for Keenum. He thinks VY is better lol.
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