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Old 10-08-2013   #1
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Default Guess the Ram's game plan with Matt at QB

I can't wait to see GK's game plan this week.
Did we run a naked boot last week? I think GK figured out that play is DEAD.
GK might have figured out pass to 80 outside is DEAD, maybe?
Short dump over middle might be DEAD? Actually may be an option.
I guess we can try and keep them honest deep a few times but MS seemed to have an accuracy problem and really can't throw deep.
In fact based on last week he seemed to be off on all throws longer than the check down and pass to RB's

Hard to threaten a team when your gun shoots blanks and the other guy knows it. Or he knows you have no gun at all.

So do we see a whole lot of running? I am sure GK already knows better than I what his options are based on his coming up with past game plan. Maybe not because he still called the "SCHAUB" last week multiple times.

Seriously what is an effective game plan with MS at QB?

I still say game planning against MS and GK is a defensive coordinators DREAM. Remember Saban article in SI a few weeks back in reference to preparing for A&M game.

What does GK come up with???

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Simply pressure Schaub at the line of scrimmage and easily read the body language of Schaub and the play calling of Kubiak.
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I can't wait to see GK's game plan this week.
Did we run a naked boot last week? I think GK figured out that play is DEAD.
GK might have figured out pass to 80 outside is DEAD, maybe?
Short dump over middle might be DEAD? Actually may be an option.
I guess we can try and keep them honest deep a few times but MS seemed to have an accuracy problem and really can't throw deep.
In fact based on last week he seemed to be off on all throws longer than the check down and pass to RB's

Hard to threaten a team when your gun shoots blanks and the other guy knows it. Or he knows you have no gun at all.

So do we see a whole lot of running? I am sure GK already knows better than I what his options are based on his coming up with past game plan. Maybe not because he still called the "SCHAUB" last week multiple times.

Seriously what is an effective game plan with MS at QB?

I still say game planning against MS and GK is a defensive coordinators DREAM. Remember Saban article in SI a few weeks back in reference to preparing for A&M game.

What does GK come up with???
Nothing, he'll continue to run the gimmick offense with no down the field threat, the team we face will play zone, start to switch to man and then eventually start blitzing us like a hooker on crack cocaine.. Jeff Fisher will be very aggressive, as he always is on defense. Matt will crumble up before he even gets hit, and go down, and hopefully it won't be a 5 game pick 6 streak. Although if it gets Kubiak fired, I'm all for a 8 game pick 6 streak.

Game over.
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Default Re: Guess the Ram's game plan with Matt at QB

Maybe: run run run run slant run outlet pass run run...

Then praise after game for Schaub's gutsy turnaround.
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Maybe: run run run run slant run outlet pass run run...

Then praise after game for Schaub's gutsy turnaround.
How about if we try running the wildcat the entire game?
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Maybe: run run run run slant run outlet pass run run...

Then praise after game for Schaub's gutsy turnaround.
I see something similar.

Run, run, run, run, run, punt.

run, run, slant, punt.


run, run, run, run, run, FG


run, slant, slant, punt

repeat.

There won't be any talk of a Matt Schaub turnaround. Instead, they'll be asking him if his play calling was due to his QB being shell-shocked. He'll say no, the entire play book was at our disposal, the game just wasn't very conducive to a lot of passing.

No one will put him on the spot & remind him we were down 21-3 at the half.
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Nothing, he'll continue to run the gimmick offense with no down the field threat.
He's bound to that if he sticks with Schaub .... his arm is dead. I rewatched the game last night since my internet was down and I couldn't argue with you all.

Its quite obvious he has lost some (a LOT) of velocity .... why I think has to do with footwork and the lisfranc. He's throwing off the back foot or just not following thru more times than not. That tells me consciously or not he's compensating for the foot.


Don't expect downfield throws if Schaub is under center.
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Default Re: Guess the Ram's game plan with Matt at QB

Schaub is struggling because he hasn't gotten as many easy throws this year. He looks the same to me. But since teams are playing the bootlegs with more discipline and you have (1) a defender in Schaub's face when he rolls out (2) solid coverage over the top, he can't make a play.

He's never been a guy that is going to sit in the pocket all game and pick you apart. He's leaned on the back of this offense and now when teams are playing it with more discipline he struggles.
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Schaub is struggling because he hasn't gotten as many easy throws this year. He looks the same to me. But since teams are playing the bootlegs with more discipline and you have (1) a defender in Schaub's face when he rolls out (2) solid coverage over the top, he can't make a play.

He's never been a guy that is going to sit in the pocket all game and pick you apart. He's leaned on the back of this offense and now when teams are playing it with more discipline he struggles.
Too many of us texan fans don't understand what you just stated. This is exactly why I've been saying Schaub is the same Quarterback he has always been.
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Schaub is struggling because he hasn't gotten as many easy throws this year. He looks the same to me. But since teams are playing the bootlegs with more discipline and you have (1) a defender in Schaub's face when he rolls out (2) solid coverage over the top, he can't make a play.

He's never been a guy that is going to sit in the pocket all game and pick you apart. He's leaned on the back of this offense and now when teams are playing it with more discipline he struggles.
I don't know if you have any games from early last year , but if you do , watch any from the first quarter of the season and then any from this season and compare .... Its quite obvious when doing so that Schaubs velocity is GONE (what little he had to begin with).
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I'm thinking he'll bounce back for St. Louis but totally gets embarrassed at Arrowhead playing against KC's solid defense. That's when the playoff collapse really begins.

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Schaub shouldn't be needed in this game, imo. Run Foster and Tate the entire game. Their run defense is horrible.

This should be an easy W no matter how bad Schaub has been. Run the dang ball and crush Bradford.

If we lose this one it's ovah
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I don't know if you have any games from early last year , but if you do , watch any from the first quarter of the season and then any from this season and compare .... Its quite obvious when doing so that Schaubs velocity is GONE (what little he had to begin with).
I noted early last year that Schaub's arm looked more lively than it had at any point in his career. Don't need to go watch the games. I could probably find posts where I said that last year.

But I think that was an aberration. Matt has always been a lobber more than a zinger. Maybe it is worse now. It probably is. But instill think he's about the same guy he's always been.

I don't think Matt would play this poorly all the time. I think we can win with him if the rest of the team is not making mistakes. But when he's playing like this it doesn't matter. Either way I think he's either a burden or a huge burden.
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He looks the same to me.
he is the same guy, the system is failing so the system qb is failing. it has nothing to do with his foot, hes always had a noodle arm, hes put up yards throwing to wide open receivers. this qb friendly system hasnt forced schaub to make a tough decision his entire career.. you run the plays, if the play doesnt develop the way its drawn, you throw it away. when pressure gets there you curl up or make a bad choice.. wish we would have gotten rid of this guy years ago while everyone was gettin caught up in the numbers he put up against bottom dwelling mediocre defenses in 2011..
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What if: Innegan returns a pick 6 this Sunday?
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Nothing, he'll continue to run the gimmick offense with no down the field threat, the team we face will play zone, start to switch to man and then eventually start blitzing us like a hooker on crack cocaine.. Jeff Fisher will be very aggressive, as he always is on defense. Matt will crumble up before he even gets hit, and go down, and hopefully it won't be a 5 game pick 6 streak. Although if it gets Kubiak fired, I'm all for a 8 game pick 6 streak.

Game over.
I just can't understand why we don't go to our TEs on quick slants or crossing routes or deep slants when defenses start blitzing LBs. Anyway great post.
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I just can't understand why we don't go to our TEs on quick slants or crossing routes or deep slants when defenses start blitzing LBs. Anyway great post.
Few Reasons:

- we don't have anyone that can beat man to man coverage.
- TE's are taken away by CB's or good LB's, such as SF's, and the safeties start playing closer to the LOS which closes in on the seam routes as you have to get it over the top of the LB, in front of the safety.
- we get behind and the run game is no longer a threat for the LB's to worrry about.
- we get double A gap blitzed because noone worries about Matt "escaping" the pocket, which makes it even harder for him to see anything over the center of the field.
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Prey he starts and stays all game?
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Blitz Hard and BLitz Fast and hit Matt in da MOUF

im talking like 5 man rush every down and on 3rd and long send the hole kitchen sink like 7 man rush LOL
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Yell "TO ME!!!" So schaub knows which corner/lb/safety to throw it to.
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