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Old 10-07-2013   #1
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I'm 62 and been an Oiler fan since the 60's. I actually read quite a lot of threads here over the years and sometimes have posted. But here I enjoy reading everyone's opinions, feelings, thoughts, and have learned quite a bit about the Texans and football. I'm not much good trying to explain myself. I also do have my thoughts and opinions. Almost most of the time my restraint wins and keeps me from posting whether from frustration, time, laziness, or staying away from honest confrontation. But today I found this link and there are others that I was not expecting before the season started. I know it's the talk of town and I'm just trying to be moderate, patient, and cool about it. But after hearing this was like breaking through a hard shell of many people's take on the Schaub Kubiak thing. Listen and watch around us and one will see that you also don't have to be a Texan fan to see what's going on here. I wish the Texans the best this year for whatever outcome. But there is a reason for all this and I'm slowly finding out IMHO where I stand. Here is an example
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Old 10-07-2013   #2
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I mean its stephen a and skip bayless so u have to take what they say with a grain if salt.....but its hard to dispute anything stephen a is saying...its all out there at this point...
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I mean its stephen a and skip bayless so u have to take what they say with a grain if salt.....but its hard to dispute anything stephen a is saying...its all out there at this point...
The truth either comforts or offends. This day has been coming people don't have to say Schaub is terrible over time the truth always comes to the light. That's why 4 years ago when Steve Young said Schaub is never the reason Texans win... I knew most us texans fans wouldn't agree. 4 years later we are here. David Carr for 5 years... the oilers... this is all about making money filling up seats in the stadium.
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I mean its stephen a and skip bayless so u have to take what they say with a grain if salt.....but its hard to dispute anything stephen a is saying...its all out there at this point...
It is indeed but like you're saying, this is "blinding flash of the obvious" stuff right here. There's no law in the universe that says that those two guys can never be right. In fact the law of averages tells us that sooner or later, even if it's by sheer dumb luck they're going to get one right.

This is pretty much what I see too.

When Yates came in for Schaub (actually Leinart now that I think about it) two years ago he provided a spark at that time and I'm not going to say he couldn't do it again. I know Gary will not bench Schaub but going forward with the assumption that he does (maybe following the soon to be record-extending fifth straight pick-six courtesy of Cortland Finnegan) then sure, you know Yates is coming. It is the way Gary Kubiak does business. It is the only way he knows how to do business. Keenum represents raw talent and ability to him. Keenum is the wildcard here. If he didn't have that to offer then he wouldn't be taking up a roster spot. There are plenty of guys out there who could sit in the 3 spot and wear a baseball cap. Guys with experience who aren't going to be starters but who Gary would feel fine about way back there behind Matt and TJ. Gary has had projects before and the ones who have nothing to offer do a year on the practice squad and wash out. or two years on the practice squad and wash out. Clearly Keenum has shown him something to merit a roster spot.

Yates on the other hand represents safety and experience. Not to the extent that Schaub does but in a scenario where Schaub is no longer an option Gary must go with Yates first. It's just how he's built.

If Yates succeeds then fine. Great. The team gets its spark and maybe the ship gets righted. If Yates doesn't make that happen then all I'm saying is that going back to Schaub will be the death of the season for the Texans. It will be the move that turns a team not believing in their QB into a team that doesn't believe in their head coach.
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I'm not much good trying to explain myself.
Solid post old timer. Keep them coming.

I liked Steven A Smith when he first came on the scene, because he said what needed to be said, in a room full of people he had no business saying it.

Then when he started to get clout...... I turned him off. Got tired of his "act"

But he's spot on here. I really like his comments about Keenum. Solid points.

Exactly what they(we) need.
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Solid post old timer.
Old timer? He's the same age as me. I can assure you, not only are we smarter than you we are also better looking.
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lol forever young for all you guys thanks for the replies. Hey thunderkyss it's been a long time but I actually do remember that I think you were the first one to reply years ago to me. Good to hear from ya. n yea Thorn we look better not sure on the smarter thing tho lol. Anyways I feel better now that I'm not totally alone on this QB change stuff but many posters here are threading it around. I was just tying to handshake that to the other world out there. They're doing the same thing.
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must be cold in hades, i actually agree with those two idiots (stephen A and whatshisname, not thorn and texan).
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Steven A Smith is right... he doesn't know what he's talking about. Best thing Steven A Smith has done is sit next to Skippy Bayless -- everyone looks/sounds good sitting next to Bayless.
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I don't really know what the outcome would be, but I'd be so proud of Kubiak right now if Keenum started the next game. You can't find answers if you don't look for them.
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Never thought these words would EVER come out of my mouth when it came to those two douche monkeys..

HOWEVA!!!

they are absolutely right. Matty Pick 6 is dead as the Houston Texans QB, Kubiak and McNair are just to stubborn to realize it. Is Keenum the answer, don't know because he hasn't got his chance to prove to anybody right or wrong. should he get his shot, hell yes he should.
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Completely agree with everything they said and their reasoning. Nothing more to add. Simply spot on.
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A stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Some good videos, hopefully we get a chance to see what Keenum has this season.
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TB51 glad to see you posting & offering opinion. I, like the rest of you, want what is best for our team. I consider myself loyal to players even those having down time or not as productive as I had hoped; see Brandon Harris. MS has done enough prior to this season for me to reluctantly say he was the best we could do. Now I am just disgusted. The point of video that stood out to me is what I want (of course) & that is a spark plug that will ignite the Texans' engine. I think that is Keenum. I watch Cougar ball when there is a player that gets my attention and Case did that long ago. First he perseveres and has gone against naysayers his entire football life. If you are unaware of his story, research. There are plenty of posts on this MB with numerous links. His only negative is height but he not only is a player but a leader and field general. College stats: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...81/case-keenum

Sure you cannot go on stats alone but many here have watched him play many times. He is extremely accurate and unlike Manziel and some of the other hybrid QBs, he runs only when he has to.
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Thanks for posting that. I have to agree with them.
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