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Old 10-06-2013   #1
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McNair extended Kubiak the season he should have been fired. Is it any wonder players like Schaub and Bullock aren't held accountable? It's the corporate culture.
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McNair extended Kubiak the season he should have been fired. Is it any wonder players like Schaub and Bullock aren't held accountable? It's the corporate culture.
No, but players like Tate are held accountable when they fumble once and get benched even though he was having a kick-ass game.

I'd say it's favoritism, not accountability.
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No, but players like Tate are held accountable when they fumble once and get benched even though he was having a kick-ass game.

I'd say it's favoritism, not accountability.
Either way, it's a helluva a way to run a franchise. At least the fans give them lots of money for the show.
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No, but players like Tate are held accountable when they fumble once and get benched even though he was having a kick-ass game.

I'd say it's favoritism, not accountability.
You can argue that it's almost racism I mean the system is being run in good ol boy fashion.
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You can argue that it's almost racism I mean the system is being run in good ol boy fashion.
When you replace a qb its usually a permanent deal. At the very least one game. Add that to the fact that what's replacing him is probably not going to be very good. It makes it a tough decision. Ben Tate goes out for a quarter and you have a better guy taking up the slack. Then he can come back in and not miss a beat. At this point something needs to be done but its a totally different decision.

Your the second person to mention racism in this decision. I don't think you thought that statement through.
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You can argue that it's almost racism I mean the system is being run in good ol boy fashion.
I think fascism is a better word for the concept. It's less race-related and more political.
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I think fascism is a better word for the concept. It's less race-related and more political.
You are correct that racist doesn't apply. Gary hand picked Frank Bush and Rick Smith as his key people...so I think racist is kinda not even close to accurate.
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You are correct that racist doesn't apply. Gary hand picked Frank Bush and Rick Smith as his key people...so I think racist is kinda not even close to accurate.
well someone can still be racist if he favors black people over white, but I don't think this is the case...
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No, but players like Tate are held accountable when they fumble once and get benched even though he was having a kick-ass game.

I'd say it's favoritism, not accountability.
This. Keshawn Martin fumbled and recovered it himself. The next punt return Keo was back there.
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Hey, it works for the fans and it works for business, so what's to change? The games all sell out. *shrug*
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Hey, it works for the fans and it works for business, so what's to change? The games all sell out. *shrug*
Houston Texans, Inc. brags about consecutive Reliant "sellouts" since 2002...

...like that is something to brag about.
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This. Keshawn Martin fumbled and recovered it himself. The next punt return Keo was back there.
Martin was shaken up and out of the game I believe.

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Martin was shaken up and out of the game I believe.

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Ah. The only thing I remembered is he wasn't in the next punt return after the fumble. He returned later in the game, so maybe it was just a minor injury for Kmart..
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Schaub didn't even have the sack to face the media after the game.

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This. Keshawn Martin fumbled and recovered it himself. The next punt return Keo was back there.
Tate is the backup... Keshawn Martin is one of many punt return options...

Replacing a few Tate carries with Arian Foster or pulling Martin for one punt return has nothing in common with replacing the starting QB... nor with benching the only kicker on the team for a couple of kicks... Who would you use? Lechler?... Neither Tate nor Martin lost their roster spot nor depth on the team.
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No, but players like Tate are held accountable when they fumble once and get benched even though he was having a kick-ass game.

I'd say it's favoritism, not accountability.
I say its play the higher salary, piss on talent...
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Going down with a sinking ship..get rid of kubs,3to 5 years to rebuild---Go Rockets
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You are confusing accountability with being reactionary and impatient. Kubiak demands accountability from his players and himself... accountability is a central theme of this organization... The fact that he doesn't throw his players under the bus to protect his reputation or create a scapegoat is honorable and good for the health of the team. Just because he doesn't throw a fit and bench or humiliate a player after a bad performance does not mean he is okay with it... It simply means that he believes that player remains the teams best option at the position to win.

As with all coaches, sometimes his assessment is wrong. IMO, better to error on the side of patience and trust then to quit on a guy too soon.

I will agree that Kubiak struggles to honestly assess his players. That is why Rick smiths increased power after 2010 has led to better results. Still, I don't think he should bench schaub yet. I still think MS is this teams best chance to win big this year, if he can work through whatever is going on.
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Heads will roll if we lose one of these next two. I'm glad Gary picked Matt because these guys make millions and should go down with the ship if they don't make the playoffs. Something they actually have a very good chance of doing. If you can't live up to your expectations, especially with the talent they have, then GTFO. I'm tired of this politically correct, good ol' boy stance they've taken since the losing streak. Schaub should be saying "I, I've, myself " in those interviews instead of Kubiak.

It's the mentality of those two. It's not made for today's NFL and it will never go far. Houston should throw a parade in honor of Daryl Morey for saving Houston sports this year.
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