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Old 09-30-2013   #1
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It wasn't the Schaub pick 6, it wasn't the 98 yard drive (113 with penalties), or even the "game winning" fg. It was after Cushing destroyed Lynch and caused the fumble and Kubiak went into Kubiak mode and settled for 3. Right then and there the Seahawks knew they would be in this game as long as the coach was on our sideline. Effing get the ball to #80 when your that close! Who the f is going to keep him from catching it. Better yet, put #99 in at TE and let him figure it out. This BS ***** footing around when the foot is on the throat is what loses games. As long as Kubiak is coach this team will never win at a high level.
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Low key Schaub hate thread # 567565678654. Not that i have a problem with those of you wanting to curb stomp Schaub right now....
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Default Re: Where the game was lost

I gotta' disagree with the premise of the thread. The pick 6 lost the game. Up a TD with 3:00 left in the game is pretty much a no brainer for better coaches and QBs. Horrible playcalling at that point and even worse execution.
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I gotta' disagree with the premise of the thread. The pick 6 lost the game. Up a TD with 3:00 left in the game is pretty much a no brainer for better coaches and QBs. Horrible playcalling at that point and even worse execution.
We got the ball with 2 minutes left in regulation, but couldn't get into scoring position just like we couldn't since the second TD without help from the defense. That's from the 6 minute mark of the second qtr, the entire 3rd qtr, the 4th qtr, & two OT possessions.
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Nope, it was the pick 6. We could've gone in Kubiak conservative mode and won that game. The defense was playing well. Arian was running decent in that series. Keep feeding him instead of putting the ball in Schaubiak's hands

And for the love of Pete, why can't our QB read a NB blitz during pre-snap reads. It was obvious!!
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Nope, it was the pick 6. We could've gone in Kubiak conservative mode and won that game. The defense was playing well. Arian was running decent in that series. Keep feeding him instead of putting the ball in Schaubiak's hands
And for the love of Pete, why can't our QB read a NB blitz during pre-snap reads. It was obvious!!
I do agree with this, but if the Texans go up 21-3 after Cushing's fumble blow on Lynch, the game is over.

For the record, this was NOT a Schaub hate thread. It was a Kubiak sucks thread.
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Default Re: Where the game was lost

Kubiak tried his best to give the game away, but what lost the game was the Schaub pick-six. Really no debate about that.
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Kubiak tried his best to give the game away, but what lost the game was the Schaub pick-six. Really no debate about that.
Kubiak radioed in that POS play into the huddle. Stupid play call when a simple handoff to #23 would have been sufficient.
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Kubiak tried his best to give the game away, but what lost the game was the Schaub pick-six. Really no debate about that.
Kubiak tried to give the game away? Was he the one who fumbled to give Seattle 3 points or the one who threw away 7 more? Or maybe it was him who gave up the 98 yard drive in the 4th? I see nothing Kubiak did, outside of maybe trusting his QB to throw a simple pass pay, to lose this game.
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Nope, it was the pick 6. We could've gone in Kubiak conservative mode and won that game. The defense was playing well. Arian was running decent in that series. Keep feeding him instead of putting the ball in Schaubiak's hands

And for the love of Pete, why can't our QB read a NB blitz during pre-snap reads. It was obvious!!
Yep, and that is all on the coach.
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Low key Schaub hate thread....
I'm not a Schaub hater. I really, really try not to be.

But we lost this game when the Seahawks dangled their jugular right in front of us, we took one half ass swipe at it..... they pulled it back & laughed all the way to victory.

They exposed their jugular when Cush caused Lynch to fumble & we got the ball on their 19.

We feigned a swipe at it with that half ass route Andre ran on the first play.

They pulled it back when they held us to a field goal.

They laughed all the way to victory... with that pick 6 & the 98+ yard TD scoring drive in the 4th.
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I'm not a Schaub hater. I really, really try not to be.

But we lost this game when the Seahawks dangled their jugular right in front of us, we took one half ass swipe at it..... they pulled it back & laughed all the way to victory.

They exposed their jugular when Cush caused Lynch to fumble & we got the ball on their 19.

We feigned a swipe at it with that half ass route Andre ran on the first play.

They pulled it back when they held us to a field goal.

They laughed all the way to victory... with that pick 6 & the 98+ yard TD scoring drive in the 4th.
I hear you....i only wrote what i did b/c the title of thread is kinda like "really?". There were lots of key plays that had an impact on the game............but ultimately everyone knows where the game was mostly lost at...

This thread and its title is a borderline troll move.
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It was after Cushing destroyed Lynch and caused the fumble and Kubiak went into Kubiak mode and settled for 3. Right then and there the Seahawks knew they would be in this game as long as the coach was on our sideline. Effing get the ball to #80 when your that close! Who the f is going to keep him from catching it.
Was that the drive Schaub missed a wide open AJ in the endzone?
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the drive before the pix sixes

we threw the ball 3 straight times and went 3 and out we didn't even run why I don't know we could of killed most of the time if we just got 2 first downs

the drive after that we finally ran the ball cus it was so obvs at that point but on

3 and 4 after we ran it 2 times before that we decided to do a little bootleg and leave one defender un blocked
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Schaub suited up?
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We lost the game on Schaub first int in the red zone. Seattle only rush 2 and dropped everyone back to cover a short zone. And yet Schaub rush a throw like it was an all out blitz and he threw it into that short crowded zone where it was tip right into Seattle hands.

When the defense is only rushing 3 or less it's critical for a QB to remain patient in the pocket and survey the whole field as he will usually have time to throw when the defense trades pass rush for extra secondary coverage. Schaub should have grab a chair and sat in the pocket and took his sweet time to find an open receiver cuz Seattle only sent TWO rushers!

Folks here like to thrashed Schaub weak arm and mobility. But his biggest downfall have always been his lack of pocket-precense and foot placement.
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I don't even remember the last time the Texans played good football for a full 60 minutes. They seem to play good in one or two quarters only. That's not going to be good enough to win a Super Bowl.
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Let's shift from the conservative talk because I honestly don't think Kubiak was in this game. Not to the point of costing us the game. Instead what about being predictable? As I heard on Mike & Mike this morning, they stated that some around the league feel we are predictable in our playcalling. Richard Sherman also stated he knew the ball was coming based on the formation and that they already practiced against it.

So are we that predictable? Does the answer why on some of these passes that Matt is going color blind that the receivers have a blanket around them? Or maybe this answers why a team that amounts so many yards ends up field goals or these stretches where we can't even get in the endzone. Second half against the Hawks nothing to speak for. Ravens nothing to speak for. Last quarter of the schedule last year for a good 6 quarters, nothing to speak for.

Does any think we're predictable?
If the Texans are that predictable, they would have never been leading 20-3. Every team has tendencies, and coaches practice recognizing and defeating those tendencies. Schaub was carving that team up in the first half. He looked every bit of a SB winning QB. What happened after halftime is another story, but it was like the movie Final Destination to watch. You could just see it coming from Tate fumble, the pick 6, to the Jackson penalty that put the Hawks in position to win the game.

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Maybe. I don't think it would've mattered if they knew it was coming or not. The ball was floated up for grabs. Their guy broke on it and won it
Yea he wanted the ball allot more than Daniels did for sure. Surely both Schaub and Daniels knew the blitz was on. You gotta go get that ball, not wait for it. But in the end, Schaub should have taken the sack, punted and let the D hold the lead.
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If the Texans are that predictable, they would have never been leading 20-3. Every team has tendencies, and coaches practice recognizing and defeating those tendencies. Schaub was carving that team up in the first half.
I remember after thinking, after the second field goal, if we win this game, it will be because of the defense, or it would be because of Arian. As good as Schaub played, that's what we expect from a QB with the kind of talent he had around him. Meyers did his job, OD did his job... we'd think Schaub did his job.

Right or wrong..... whatever.

On the Gary Kubiak show they asked Gary how Schaub was doing & he said fine.... he's tough, comes with the territory. Then they threw that cliche out there, "QBs get to much credit when they win & too much blame when they lose."

I was thinking, "Not in Schaub's case." He rarely get's credit for winning. The thin air got more credit for that win in Denver last year than Schaub did.
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