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View Poll Results: What needs be done to fix offense? (Vote for one or more.)
Start a different quarterback. 34 64.15%
Rewrite the playbook. 6 11.32%
Fire the offensive coordinator. 5 9.43%
Fire the head coach. 16 30.19%
Let somebody else call the plays. 9 16.98%
Abandon the zone blocking scheme. 2 3.77%
No change needed. 3 5.66%
Other 11 20.75%
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Old 09-22-2013   #1
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What needs to be done to fix Texans' Nothing offemse?
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Kubiak and Wade have peaked, time to look for another HC. If schaub doesnt perform......which most people seem to think would be the case, Schaub would be outta here in favor of the new coaches guy anyway.
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Fire HC then remove qb
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Just give me a new QB.
I think that will spark the team and the fans and give us a new offensive identity.
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Default Re: How improve offense?

Schaubiak has held this team back for too long. The problem is the offense has a specific identity (zone blocking, playaction, rollouts, etc.). You get rid of the HC and you're likely starting over on offense. Yes there is talent there, but you will have a new QB and a new offense.

Wade has done wonders with the defense so hopefully he would stay on. The defense has it's own problems (pass rush, man coverage, shredded by good QB's) but the defense is not the problem with this team.

Oh and fire Joe Marciano please.
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Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
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Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
THIS. And it's why this offense was at it's best with baby Shanny running it.
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Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
EXACTLY!!!

Why is it when I watch the Texans, I feel as though I am watch the 97-98 Broncos? all day today, I was making my dad laugh because I wasn't even in the room, he would yell out down and distance the Texans had and I would tell him what play was coming, before it ever was ran. That is how predicable Kubiak's offense is.

Hell even Suggs knew what was coming, they made point of that often in the game....

The game now that is the NFL is passing Kubiak, no check that, the game that now is the NFL is leaving Kubiak's ass in the dust and Kubiak is way too stubborn to see it and adapt...

What worked 15 years ago does not work today, or it only gets you so far...
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When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
Profootballreference.com has a feature called play finder.
They don't have an update for this week game yet, but through the first two games, the Texans called a pass play 86.7% of the time on 2nd and 7 yards or longer.
The rest of the league was at just over 60%.

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Its called adapt to the new NFL. This isn't the 90s anymore The ZBS works, but you need to know its limitations and how to work around them. You need to open the aggression when in the red zone. You have 2 beast wide outs and yet you run 3 straight times and then kick a fg against a team who is good....wtf? The play calling is terrible and the design is over used. Become more creative. For instance, you have 2 elite runners, run shotgun with 2 backs (foster and tate) and make defenses guess where the ball is going. When 2nd and long, throw it deep, EVERY time. Stop being predictable with runs. IDK, you just need to be more creative.
"When 2nd and long, throw it deep, Everytime."

That is what you said, isn't it?
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I've been beating this drum for yrs.
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I'm ready to see some fresh blood at QB. Once the score got out of hand today, I wish Kubiak would've put Yates in and let him rip.

The playbook doesn't need to be rewritten but it does need updated. Kubiak needs to loose the hounds when his back is against the wall and open his playbook up all the way, not just used the dog-eared pages. I didn't vote to replace the offensive coordinator, but maybe I should have. There's way too much talent on this team.

Marciano needs to go. ST's has been in the crapper for a few years.

One thing I hope doesn't happen is that Phillips becomes interim HC this season. That would fit his MO, though, and he has stated many times that he wants to be a HC again.
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I'm ready to see some fresh blood at QB. Once the score got out of hand today, I wish Kubiak would've put Yates in and let him rip.
There's no way Kubiak makes that change, especially based on what happened the two weeks prior.

The score didn't put the game out of hand..... time ran out. Time ran out, because our defense couldn't get Baltimore off the field & when it finally did, it took us 5 minutes to get into field goal range.

At the next opportunity, we saw Cierre & Yates handing him the ball.
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I'm ready to see some fresh blood at QB. Once the score got out of hand today, I wish Kubiak would've put Yates in and let him rip.

The playbook doesn't need to be rewritten but it does need updated. Kubiak needs to loose the hounds when his back is against the wall and open his playbook up all the way, not just used the dog-eared pages. I didn't vote to replace the offensive coordinator, but maybe I should have. There's way too much talent on this team.

Marciano needs to go. ST's has been in the crapper for a few years.

One thing I hope doesn't happen is that Phillips becomes interim HC this season. That would fit his MO, though, and he has stated many times that he wants to be a HC again.
Kinda agree with the Doc on this one. Schaub has his moments but there are times when he looks like a backup who can win games and not a starter who dedicates every waking moment to thinking of how he can win a title.
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Bingo. This should have been done 3 yrs. ago.
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Find someone to replace Newton , not having Brown really hurt today.

Also need a QB .... who can throw downfield and extend plays with his feet. Im done with "The statue of Schaub" Three picks in three games that either result in a pick 6 or fantastic field position resulting in 6. Had IT!

Find an OC who will call for routes that go beyond the marker on 3rd down & will take shots "Into" the endzone while in the redzone. This is really a big deal as a penalty in the endzone puts you at the 1 ..... with a 1st down.


Last but not least , get rid of Marciano .... that dude's concept of lane integrity is worse than a politicians concept of integrity.
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I agree with corrosion. I also think that if Kubes had a better qb,he would do more from a point of moving the pockets just to vs to make sure a dude with avg arm can have clean feet. They also need more speed at wr. They don't have a wr who can just flat out run guys. Andre still can run,but he's not the guy to eat the cushion like he used to. None of the te's can run either. When you look at the modern te's like gronk,hernandez,graham,and the cameron kid in cleveland,they have a common trait. They all are big guys who can run seam routes. None of the texans te's are those kind of threats. So derfense just cloud the middle and let them run those jerk routes.
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Find someone to replace Newton , not having Brown really hurt today.

Also need a QB .... who can throw downfield and extend plays with his feet. Im done with "The statue of Schaub" Three picks in three games that either result in a pick 6 or fantastic field position resulting in 6. Had IT!

Find an OC who will call for routes that go beyond the marker on 3rd down & will take shots "Into" the endzone while in the redzone. This is really a big deal as a penalty in the endzone puts you at the 1 ..... with a 1st down.


Last but not least , get rid of Marciano .... that dude's concept of lane integrity is worse than a politicians concept of integrity.
In the first two games, in the red zone, the Texans called a pass play 70% of the time; the rest of the league only some 56-57% of the time.

On these passing attempts, the Texans gained some .25 yard per play more than the rest of the league.

It's the total reverse of what you were expecting.
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On third down, regardless of field position, the Texans averaged 8.52 yards to go, and they gained 7.33 yards per pass attempts on these plays.

The whole league (including the Texans) averaged 7.94/5.80

The Texans passed more on third downs; they had further to go, and they gained more.

Again, it is the reverse of what was expecting in this thread.
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