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Old 09-21-2013   #1
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Default Jadeveon Clowney playing with bone spurs

Just read that he was stepped on in last week game against Georgia.

It will require off-season surgery, and it was indicated that the timing probably won't allow enough time for him to heal for the combine.

It was also reported that he's playing with pain.

By playing hurt, does he have a chance to further aggravate the injury?
Will it enhance the chance if him incurring another injury?

Is it a smart decision to even play him?
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Default Re: Jadeveon Clowney playing with bone spurs

So is it injury, or effort?

Did he quit on his team? Or does he require sugery?

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It was evident during the 2013 season opener against North Carolina that Clowney's conditioning was subpar. His snap count didn't warrant him being as tired as he was and he clearly took some plays off. Sources told WalterFootball.com Clowney lacked a good work ethic in his conditioning and took a significant amount of plays off last year. However after the opener, Clowney's effort and conditioning was a lot better the rest of the season after he took some criticism.
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Clowney has totaled 35 tackles, three sacks, 10.5 tackles for a loss, two passes defended and a forced fumble in 2013.
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The 6-foot-6, 272-pounder has the athletic talent to be a special player. The scary part is how good he could be if he develops an inner drive and a work ethic.
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Mario, is that you?
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There's an NFL coach -- I want to say Herm Edwards, but not sure -- who has a great philosophy about seeing what is...

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So is it injury, or effort?

Did he quit on his team? Or does he require sugery?

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014charlie.php
He had a virus prior to the UNC game, and even then his tape looked great. Nothing about his tape speaks to a lack of commitment or effort.
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Default Re: Jadeveon Clowney playing with bone spurs

Do not want. If we're going pass rusher give me Barr.
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Default Re: Jadeveon Clowney playing with bone spurs

He had 13 sacks and 23.5 TFL as a sophomore . That's the year everyone was drooling about . If I went with Clowney , I'd put him in JJs hip pocket .
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If I went with Clowney , I'd put him in JJs hip pocket .
Doesn't work. All the receivers we drafted who were supposed to learn from Andre never did. None of Payton's backups learned from him.
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So is it injury, or effort?

Did he quit on his team? Or does he require sugery?

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014charlie.php
I am not sure 3 tackle avg per game is an impact player that first pick should bring.
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I'm calling on Cloak to chime in on his opinion of bone spurs, yes I could google it but it's harder to find when what I want is the future performance of athletes. From what little I know I think it should be a non- issue, I'm more concerned with work ethic and the love of the game. We don't need to draft a Hainsworth.
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I'm calling on Cloak to chime in on his opinion of bone spurs, yes I could google it but it's harder to find when what I want is the future performance of athletes. From what little I know I think it should be a non- issue, I'm more concerned with work ethic and the love of the game. We don't need to draft a Hainsworth.
It's a non issue. And maybe just maybe that contributed to his perceived lack of effort at times. I personally think all that has been overhyped. His stats have suffered (compared to last year) more because of teams game planning against him than lack of effort or lack of love for the game.
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Default Clowney: Do not want

Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school, and other media outlets all over the place. I mean, this guy was touted as a guy that the media really wanted to consider for a Heisman candidate, and he totally did not show up this season with all of the extra hype and media attention. It seems like so much of it went to his head and he has underperformed a lot. That doesn't seem like a gamer to me.

And after what this franchise experienced with Mario Williams, I just can't fathom why people want him over here when we already have our J.J. Watt. Of course I'd love to have another guy like that and all, but Clowney clearly isn't the same type of guy mentally. They are not cut from the same cloth. Clowney seems way to entitled already. Every time I see a guy go into the draft that is described as a guy who takes plays off and isn't always into the game, it seems like these guys way underperform from where they were drafted.

I think the Texans can find a guy that's a lot better of a prospect regardless if he isn't as talented. Talent isn't always the end all be all. Character, drive, and motivation are big time intangibles as well that need to be considered.
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I think he's off the list for character concerns.
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Man, I sure hope so.
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Default Re: Clowney: Do not want

I agree with Tex. I don't know the entire story behind the reason or reasons why he's been a no-show this year, but I've been reading more than one report that it's because he wants to protect himself from getting injured, and becoming the next Marcus Lattimore.

That rubs me the wrong way.
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I agree with Tex. I don't know the entire story behind the reason or reasons why he's been a no-show this year, but I've been reading more than one report that it's because he wants to protect himself from getting injured, and becoming the next Marcus Lattimore.

That rubs me the wrong way.
Man, there is so many things being said about that guy. Saying he walks around with this entourage, that he takes plays off, that he has worn out his welcome on his own team with the coaching staff, and etc. The list goes on and on. After having a guy like Mario and seeing his lack of effort for years, I think most teams would be nuts to draft Clowney in the top 10 to 15 picks.
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He'll probably still get drafted fairly high, but hopefully not by the Texans. If we could pick him up in the 4th round or later I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him that way.
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That rubs me the wrong way.
If a guy won't run through a brick wall for his college teammates I question his heart.

Wicked talent + no heart = risky pick.
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Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school.
Please provide links to this.
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Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school, and other media outlets all over the place.
Yes, from many credible sources including:
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